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Special City Council Meeting — June 22, 2026
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Department heads and— oh my God, that's loud, sorry.
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There are extra copies now up by the podium.
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Why is this so— All right, good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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It is 7:03 PM on Monday, June 22nd, 2026.
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We do not have a member of the clergy present, so at this time I will ask everyone to please pause for a moment of silence.
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Thank you.
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Tonight we are led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Councilor at Large Brian Gomes.
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Individual, with liberty and justice for all.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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Thank you, Councilor.
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I am joined in the council chambers by my colleagues, Councilor at Large Ian Abreu, Councilor of Ward 2 Scott Pemberton, Councilor of Ward 1 Leo Choquette, Councilor of Ward 5 Joseph Lopes, Councilor at Large Brian Gomes, Councilor at Large James Roy, Councilor at Large Naomi Carney, Councilor of Ward 3 Sean Oliver, Councilor at Large and First Vice President Shane Burgum.
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I would like to note that this meeting is being live streamed and recorded, and that city council and committee meetings can be viewed on the City of New Bedford's homepage under Quick Links, then Meetings.
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I'll ask the clerk if there are any letters to be read into the record.
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Mr. President, there are not.
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Okay, I'll ask the clerk to move on to item A. Mr. President, item A is communication from City Council President Pereira to City Clerk Dennis Farias calling a special city council meeting on Monday, June 22nd, 2026 at 7 PM in the city council chambers, the 2nd floor of City Hall, for the FY27 final budget and budget cut session.
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Motion received and placed on file.
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A motion received and placed on file was made by Councilor Burgos, seconded by Councilor Lopes.
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Anyone on the question?
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All those in favor say aye.
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Opposed?
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The ayes have it.
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I'll ask the clerk to read item— begin the cuts.
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Oh, Mr. President, if I may.
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Chair recognizes Councilor Burgo.
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This speech— thank you, Mr. President.
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Um, as I reflect, uh, before we begin on our amendments, uh, to these proposals, I just want to take this moment as I reflect on how we arrived at this moment.
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I can't help but think back to the day this budget was first introduced.
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Many will remember that I had a bit of an outburst on this council floor.
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My frustration was not about politics.
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It was about people.
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It was about the dedicated city employees who have spent decades serving New Bedford, many of whom were treated as no more than line items to be eliminated.
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It was about the disrespect shown not only to this council, but to the men and women who have devoted their careers to keeping this city running.
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I never imagined an administration could handle such a difficult financial situation in such a cold and dismissive manner.
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Yet here we are.
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After that moment, I did issue a formal apology.
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I did so not because I did not want my— sorry, I did so because I did not want my choice of words to become a distraction from the real issue at hand.
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And so I say to the employees who have been laid off in this process, those who were effectively treated as sacrificial lambs in this budget crisis, I want to speak directly to you.
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You are not line items.
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You are not expendable.
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You are individuals who have been dedicated servants.
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You have spent years, and in many cases decades, of your lives to public service in this city.
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Your work mattered, your contributions mattered, and the impact you made on this city and our community will be felt long after this budget is passed.
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It's troubling to see careers end in such an abrupt and uncomfortable way.
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No one who has given so much of themselves to this city deserves to be cast aside without dignity or recognition.
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On behalf of this council and on behalf of the residents you served every day, I want to thank you for your years of service, and I want you to know that your work did not go unnoticed.
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To the administration's credit, significant reductions were necessary, and we should acknowledge that.
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But let's be honest about why those reductions occurred.
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These reductions were not the result of a newfound commitment to fiscal restraint, but rather because there was no other choice.
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What concerns me most is that throughout this process, there was no effort to build a coalition of partners to solve the problem.
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A city government is not one person or one office.
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It consists of the mayor, the city council, school committee, and often the state delegation.
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At a time when collaboration was desperately needed, this administration chose to pursue its own priorities rather rather than bring everyone to the table.
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The result was a proposal that cut more than $4.5 million from our schools, threatening educational services and transportation for our children, a blacking out of a fire station, laid-off firefighters, and a canceling of a fire academy that would have helped keep up with staffing.
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Yet somehow, whenever difficult decisions are being made, there always seems to be money available for positions at the top.
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There is always money available for additional administrative salaries.
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There is always money available for the solicitor's office, ensuring the mayor has a team of lawyers prepared to defend whatever position he wishes to take, even when those positions stretch or outright misinterpret the law.
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There happens to be money for a civilian chief of staff position within the police department while efforts to recruit and hire new police officers remains stalled in a department that has been understaffed for years.
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And while taxpayers fund a growing number of 6-figure administrative positions, the police union remains without a settled contract for nearly 2 years.
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One would think that with all the resources dedicated to management, resolving such a critical issue would have been a priority.
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Yet, like many things under this administration, it remains unfinished.
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What makes this civilian position particularly troubling is that when this council requested the job description of the chief of staff, we learned that the actual functional title is not chief of staff at all.
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The position is described as a deputy director of administrative operations.
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Of course, that title does not exist anywhere in our code of ordinances.
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That should concern everyone because it is not an isolated incident.
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It is a part of a clear and recurring pattern of abuse.
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If the administration believes the police department needs a deputy director of administrative operations, then it should come before this council, create the position through the proper legislative process, and allow for public discussion and oversight.
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Instead, the administration simply assigns a different title Avoids the ordinance process, and proceeds as though council approval is unnecessary.
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That approach raises a fundamental question: Are these titles being created to meet legitimate operational needs, or are they being created to avoid scrutiny and justify a particular salary level?
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Unfortunately, the police department is not the only example.
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Perhaps the most glaring example of this administration's approach to government is right at the top of the organizational chart.
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The 2 positions listed in the mayor's office budget as chief of staff are not new to us.
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They are the 2 chief of staff positions we know.
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One is an actual chief of staff, and one functions as the city's chief operating officer.
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The problem is that there is no chief operating officer title in our code of ordinances.
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Rather than doing the work necessary to create that position through the legislative process, The administration simply lists both positions as Chief of Staff so the second position can be compensated at the same pay grade.
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Think about that for a moment.
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In the police department, a position functions as Deputy Director but is labeled Chief of Staff.
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In the mayor's office, a position functions as a Chief Operating Officer but is labeled Chief of Staff.
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Different departments, Different circumstances, the same result.
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The administration avoids creating positions through the ordinance process and instead assigns whatever title is most convenient.
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That is not transparent or collaborative government, and it certainly is not respective of the legislative process.
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If the position is truly a chief operating officer, then create the title, submit the ordinance, work with the council.
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Follow the process.
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Same goes for the Deputy Director position.
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But that would require acknowledging that the Council has a role.
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What we continue to see instead is an administration that continues— that looks— continues to look for ways around the Council rather than ways to work with it.
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Now we might understand why the Solicitor's Office is always fully funded.
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Time and again, positions are rebranded.
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Titles are manipulated, and organizational structures are altered in ways that avoid the public discussion and approval that our ordinances require.
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The message is clear: this administration believes it can govern on its own, without oversight or accountability.
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That is not how our government is supposed to function.
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At a time when we are tightening our belts, we cannot afford to lose the people doing the real work on the ground.
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We can't afford to eliminate frontline positions while protecting layers of administration.
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We can't afford to tell firefighters, teachers, city workers, and taxpayers to sacrifice— that sacrifices are necessary while 6-figure management positions remain insulated from scrutiny.
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The people of New Bedford do not experience government through titles in the executive office.
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They experience government through the firefighter who responds to their emergency.
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The teacher educating their child, the police officer patrolling their neighborhood, and the public employee maintaining the services they rely on every day.
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Those are the people who should be protected first.
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Last week, during a Finance Committee meeting, we heard something that should concern every resident of this city.
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The mayor's chief of staff, the legitimate one, openly stated that cuts made by this council to his office would simply be ignored, because in his view, there is a different standard that applies.
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Those were his words, not mine.
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Think about what that means.
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The legislative branch of government exercises its lawful authority to make budget reductions, and the response from the administration is that those decisions need not be respected.
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Expected because the rules somehow apply differently to them.
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That is not how government works.
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No department is above the law.
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No administration is entitled to spend taxpayer dollars in defiance of the body that is legally charged with appropriating them.
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What is particularly disappointing is the attempt to portray these discussions as politically motivated attacks on the mayor.
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That is simply not true.
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Had this administration genuinely included the council in setting budget priorities instead of conducting performative listening sessions designed to create the appearance of collaboration, they would have heard exactly what we have been hearing from the people we represent.
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The residents of New Bedford are asking us to be their voice.
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They are telling us that in difficult financial times, taxpayer dollars should be directed towards services that directly impact their lives.
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They are telling us that public safety matters, education and neighborhood services matter.
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They are telling us that government should prioritize the people doing the work, not the politically favored few at the top.
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The people of New Bedford expect us to speak up when priorities become disconnected from reality.
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And if anyone wants to talk about politically motivated cuts, they should look no further than what this administration has done to the fire department over the years.
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Not just this year, but over the last 14 years, firefighters have repeatedly found themselves in the crosshairs whenever difficult budget decisions were made.
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We've seen prolonged staffing disputes.
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We've seen resistance to firefighter hiring and concerns about minimum manning.
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We've seen repeated battles over resources, equipment, and personnel levels.
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We've seen public statements that cast firefighters as budget problems rather than recognizing them as an essential public safety asset.
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This did not happen overnight.
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This has been a slow, slow boil.
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Year after year, decisions were made that weakened the department's ability to provide the level of service our residents and firefighters deserve.
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The pattern is difficult to miss.
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When budgets become tight, frontline public safety personnel are asked to sacrifice while administrative growth continues elsewhere.
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When priorities are set, the fire department too often finds itself fighting for resources that should never have been in question.
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That is not fiscal responsibility.
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That is a pattern of abuse.
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So tonight is not simply about balancing a budget.
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It's about restoring accountability, and it's about demanding that every department operate under the same standards.
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It's about standing up for the taxpayers who expect their government to function responsibly.
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Responsibly and honestly.
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I want the mayor and his administration to hear this clearly: so long as I have the privilege of serving the people of New Bedford, I will continue asking difficult questions and demanding the answers and challenging actions that I believe undermine the public trust.
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No mayor should govern unchecked, no administration should be permitted to ignore the law, and no elected official should remain silent when they see their city heading in the wrong direction.
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I thank you for the time tonight, Mr. President.
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Thank you.
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Chair recognizes Councilor Oliver.
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I don't know if I'll be able to keep up with that one, but I'll be— it'll be shorter, I can promise you that.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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Good evening, everyone.
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Uh, before we get into tonight's work, I want to take a moment to I want to thank everybody in this room, the department heads, the city workers, both past and present, to no fault of their own, and my colleagues on the council.
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This has been an extraordinarily difficult budget season, and I know many of us in this room have spent countless hours trying to make the numbers work and to justify the process that we're going to be going through, while continuing to provide the services that many of our residents depend on every day.
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I want to be clear that none of the decisions or recommendations or cuts that are proposed here tonight are personal.
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They are not politically motivated.
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Even every department that is represented here tonight, they have important performances and important work to do.
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And every employee that contributes to making the city of New Bedford a better place to work, a better place to live, and a better place to raise a family.
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Our responsibility tonight is to not to judge value on any department or employee.
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Our responsibility tonight is to represent the taxpayer who sent us here into these seats.
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That is the work of the families who are raising a fam— raising their families here, the seniors that are trying to live in their homes on a fixed income, whethering if they— whethering whether they know it or not, if they can live— they get to live in the homes that they've— on a fixed income that they've been able to call home for decades.
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And about the young families who are trying to start a family here, whether they can stay.
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Those are the people that I'll be thinking about tonight, and I hope that my colleagues will as well.
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I also think that it's important to realize the reality of the process before us.
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Regardless of what the recommendations come from— come out of this chamber tonight, the administration ultimately retains the significant authority over the resources and allocations to the funds and where they're going to be spent.
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We all understand that, but this budget process is one of the few opportunities that this council has to send a message and to advocate on behalf of the taxpayer that we represent.
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This is our bite of the apple, and because of that, I want to encourage all of us that are going to be making the decisions tonight to approach this evening with a willingness to make the difficult decisions.
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If you believe additional reductions can be made without jeopardizing essential services, then cut it.
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If you believe that you can find efficiencies throughout the year, then cut them tonight.
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Because tonight isn't about what's comfortable.
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It's about the people of New Bedford who are making those difficult decisions, financial decisions, every day in their homes.
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They expect us to show the same discipline when managing their tax dollars.
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And let's— let's keep this in mind as well.
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You may see a proposed reduction tonight that you may not exactly agree with.
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I encourage you to cut it anyways.
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Stand— something that stands alone or stands out that may not make sense to you, we're going to find the money.
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This, this administration has already told you that they are only going to acknowledge the cuts that they want to from this body.
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So take our opportunity with our one bite of the apple to cut it.
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Let them come to us through their appropriate channels and through the transfer process or a supplemental budget and let them show us where the money is.
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Check every cupboard, check every couch cushion, and turn over, you know, all the furniture to find every dollar that we can, because that's what the people in New Bedford are doing right now just to survive.
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So without taking up any more of my colleagues' time— I'm sure there's others that need to spend their time— I thank you for the opportunity.
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Thank you, Councilor.
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Uh, just, I forgot to recognize before, uh, a while ago that we were joined by Woodford City Councilor Derek Baptiste.
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Chair recognizes Councilor Gomes.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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Well, I'm going to take a little different approach.
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First of all, we're in a situation that we're in because we're $32 million in the hole.
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That's, that, that's the main thrust of this, and I don't understand how it happened.
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I don't understand how every department head— and I commend the department heads, as it's been said by other colleagues, for the job they do and the workers across the city— I don't understand how you ask for a proposed budget and everybody walks in with their budget, submits it, and then the budget comes out a little different.
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You see this here?
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You see this here?
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This is the budget.
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This is BS.
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I said it before because I come from budgets that are that thick, show us every line where every money's going to.
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And there's some people in here that might have had the opportunity to see those kind of budgets.
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That budget is a stuffed egg, okay?
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Where's the government unclassified?
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Where's a lot of line items?
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Because you stuck them all in somewhere.
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You stuck them all in somewhere.
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You're not going to recognize the cuts that's going to come out of the city council.
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Me, I'm more worried about those fires, that fire station and them firefighters and the people that have lost their jobs.
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I'm worried about them 24 police officers that are not going to be on the streets that the city of New Bedford rightfully deserves from the taxes that people pay for.
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In this city.
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That's what I'm worried about.
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And I'm also worried about accountability.
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It seems like nobody wants to use that word, accountability, but I'm going to use it.
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Accountability for how we got to where we are.
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It's funny that some of us are held accountable for our actions, the department heads, councilors, or whatever, but for some reason this administration is not held accountable.
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There's no explanation for how we got there.
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And the explanation that is given is the pension, the insurance.
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Well, don't we hire somebody every year?
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Isn't there somebody in the budget, at least I think there is, that's supposed to deal with the insurance and watch that wave and go with what's best for the workers, go what's best for the city?
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We've had that for a long time.
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Long time.
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We tonight They're going to cut whatever we cut.
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He's not going to recognize it.
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That's okay.
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That's okay.
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But I've got to believe that we should be more focused on all those people that lost their jobs, as one of my colleagues has stated this evening.
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That's what's important.
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What the services that the people of the city have lost and are going to lose.
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And more importantly, what their taxes are going to look like.
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And we're talking about this like it's nothing.
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Like it is nothing.
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Hey, your taxes are going to go up $1,000.
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Your taxes are going to go up $1,500.
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Where are people going to get it?
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Where are people going to get it with the increasing cost of everything?
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We can stand here and say, oh, this is happening all over the Commonwealth, this is happening all over the country.
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I don't accept that because I think New Bedford's better than that, and I think the leadership that runs New Bedford should be better than that.
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We don't follow the lead of everybody else.
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And I've seen that so many times in this administration because it always falls on everybody else.
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It's everybody else.
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It's our problem.
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Why didn't you deal with it?
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Why don't you come and tell us how— I still want to know where $32 million stretched out to put us in this situation.
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$32 million.
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And we don't have any idea of where we're going to get that money from.
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So what are we doing here?
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We're carrying on the deficit and anything else that's created in this city?
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I'm a basic guy, just like our constituency.
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I want to tell them the story so that they understand.
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Is that what we got here?
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Is that what's going on here?
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Because that's what it seems like.
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Shh, shh.
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Again, don't you challenge.
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And even if you do challenge, shh, they'll shut you down.
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'Cause you got people out there that are doing the laundry for this administration, you realize that?
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I don't care.
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I don't care.
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Nothing to lose here.
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Because you know who's losing?
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The people of this city.
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There are people out there that do the laundry, including the media.
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The media always doing the laundry for the mayor, never doing the laundry for the City Council.
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They're right up the— attack that City Council.
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They're wrong.
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They're wrong.
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No, they're not.
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We're not wrong.
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We're not wrong.
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Again, accountability.
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I want to know.
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And that's why I've asked for the Inspector General to come in.
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You know, I think if somebody else in this council had proposed that, it would have got some recognition so the people would know.
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Again, shh, they don't want the people to know.
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They don't want the people to know that this council asked for the Inspector General to come in and check out the books.
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And I'm sorry to those department heads here.
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Remember something, ladies and gentlemen, just months ago We are told— I think we pay membership for it— but somebody came in and audited the books and told us how good the books were in here.
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We're AAA, we can do this, we can do that, we can do that.
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Uh-huh, uh-huh.
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28:18
They ought to be fired.
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28:19
Get your membership back because they didn't pick up on this.
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28:23
Nobody picked up on this.
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28:25
You, Mr. Mayor, did not pick up on this, or your administration, before you had the department heads of this city submit their budgets.
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28:32
For the upcoming year?
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28:35
You didn't have any clue?
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28:37
You proposed a $100 million police station.
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28:39
Rah, rah, rah!
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28:42
Put it on hold 2 weeks later.
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28:44
That's incompetence to me.
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28:45
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that's incompetence.
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28:48
You didn't know what was happening before that, and I don't care where it lies, because you gotta understand, this administration has been one administration that don't care where they put their feet or who they put their feet on.
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28:59
You understand?
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29:00
Because they think they're almighty.
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29:01
You know that look, some of you.
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29:03
You know that look that you get from him from the side when he looks at you from the side, says, leave it alone.
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29:09
Leave it alone, Mr. Mayor.
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29:10
You talking to your kids?
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29:12
You're not talking to me.
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29:14
You don't talk to me like that.
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29:16
Tonight we'll do what we have to do, but I'm going to tell you right now, it's not over.
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29:22
There's a problem here.
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29:23
There's a big problem here.
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29:26
And no matter what we do with this budget, and we can cut, and I didn't submit that many cuts because you know why I didn't?
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29:32
Because I started to look around and I see people who have already lost their job.
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29:36
Who else will lose their job?
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29:37
Who— what other services will go?
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29:40
And then we propose something stupid like a green space assistant, like the person that cuts the grass or doesn't know, at least that's what I got out of it.
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29:50
We're going to hire somebody?
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29:51
When you just knocked out firefighters, you just knocked out police, you just knocked out city services to the people of this city?
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29:58
It's not making sense.
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29:59
And I want to make sense of it all.
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30:02
And I think that administration has an obligation to not fluff and stuff it, to tell the people how we got to where we are.
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30:09
What did you do?
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30:10
Where'd you spend the money?
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30:12
You can send me out these charts.
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30:14
I've said it before, let me see the slips.
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30:16
You know, it's funny how When we do our business in our lives, we spend $1,559.39.
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30:24
Around here, it's always an even number.
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30:26
Always an even number.
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30:28
I want to see some slips that tell me that things are above and beyond what they're supposed to be and it's taking this budget where it is.
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30:36
Because something stinks here, and I believe I'm on the right track.
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30:40
I just haven't figured it out, but we're on the— I'm on the right track.
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30:43
Something is not right here, and the mayor has an obligation, and this city has an obligation to tell the people.
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30:50
And I'm not ready to take on— and I'll cut it back, Mr. President— I'm not ready to hear from the people of this city.
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30:57
Remember when we set the tax rate back in December?
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31:01
I went for the lowest factor for the people of this city.
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31:04
Some felt in this building that we should go up a little higher.
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31:06
You know what that's going to do to those tax bills?
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31:08
Remember that $1,000 you talked about?
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Add on a couple hundred more.
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31:12
Add a couple hundred more.
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31:14
I'm very, very, very worried about those people.
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31:16
And I'm very worried about the services that are rendered here and what we pay taxes for.
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31:21
You pay taxes for public safety, and most people, that's all they're asking for.
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31:25
If their kids are out of school, they don't have them in school.
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31:29
The seniors, where are they going to get the difference?
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31:33
It's a messed up place.
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31:35
And, um, I'm not sitting by.
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31:39
I'm just not going to sit by and let it go.
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31:41
I'm going to keep on snooping.
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31:42
I'm going to keep on voicing my opinion.
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31:44
And I don't care who says— who, who has anything to say.
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31:47
You're not going to stop me.
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31:49
You can fluff and stuff it.
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31:50
You can shut us off in the media.
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31:52
You can do whatever you want.
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31:54
The people are not stupid.
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31:55
We represent some very intelligent people across the city, and they know what the hell is going on.
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32:01
And it don't need the media to fluff and stuff it for the administration while we take the beating in trying to fix what's wrong.
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32:09
$32 million.
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32:11
Let's not forget that.
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32:12
We cannot forget that as we do this tonight.
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32:14
This is going to affect some other people.
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32:17
Thank you for the opportunity, Mr. President.
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32:19
God bless our city of New Bedford.
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32:21
God bless the people who work for the city of New Bedford each and every day.
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32:24
These department heads, the people who put in the real meat and potatoes.
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32:28
And God bless those that we took their jobs— that we didn't take their jobs away, the administration took their jobs away because he had no other way out, and that's where he goes all the time.
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32:37
It's the small guy, it's the taxpayers, and then— oh, let me finish it this way.
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32:43
By the way, tonight we are having a fundraiser somewhere.
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32:48
$500,000, maybe it's $5,000.
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32:53
What the hell?
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32:54
Them are not our constituents.
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32:57
Those are not our people.
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32:58
So who are you controlled by?
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33:00
The big money?
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33:02
That's the problem in government, is give me the money, give me the money, let me get my kitty all worked up and everything.
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33:09
That, that shows power.
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33:10
I got power.
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33:12
I can run for this, I can run for that.
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33:14
Let me tell you something, this council has never had money.
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33:16
I finished number one while others had to spend hundreds of dollars.
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33:19
I spent pennies.
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33:20
This administration tonight to have a fundraiser and publicize it on the night that we're doing budget cuts, you've got to be one sick individual.
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33:30
One sick individual.
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33:31
And whoever's responsible for that, again, shows the incompetence, because I wouldn't be telling the people that I'm having a fundraiser.
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33:38
You don't want to tell them where the address is because you don't want the fire department.
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33:41
They weren't going to go anyway.
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33:42
You have your fundraiser and you enjoy yourself.
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33:45
And you take those thousands of dollars and you build it up.
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33:48
It's just like the $84 million that was spent in COVID money.
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33:52
You see the total of what he made back as far as donations?
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33:56
$84,000.
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33:58
Give away $84 million of city taxpayers' money, didn't take care really anything for the people of this city, but you received $84,000 to your kitty.
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34:07
Oh, how sweet it is, how sweet it is.
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34:09
That's money, that's power.
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34:10
No.
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34:11
My mouth is power.
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34:12
The people of this city are power.
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34:13
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
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34:16
Thank you.
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34:17
Chair recognizes Councilor Lopes.
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34:21
Thank you, Council President Pereira.
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34:23
I never enjoy going up after Councilor Gomes.
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34:24
One, because I don't speak as long, and nor do I articulate as much as Councilor Gomes does.
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34:30
But I will echo some of the sentiments of the at-large councilor to my left.
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34:34
The city administration has cited a deficit of $32 million.
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34:37
We've read it in the newspaper, heard it on the radio.
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34:39
But that figure includes over $14 million in department enhancements, new unfunded positions, program expansions, and one-time equipment and capital needs.
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34:51
Now, we've all— I've taken accounting classes, we've all balanced our checkbooks.
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34:55
A true deficit is the gap between recurring revenue and recurring obligations, what we have to pay, not what we would like to pay down the road.
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35:05
Department enhancements or wish list items are a nice thing to have when the budget is better, but right now that is an unfunded request by the administration or department head to the administration, not a structural deficit.
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35:18
There is a difference between a request for funding for an employee, new tools or equipment, and an actual department deficit.
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35:27
The deficit the administration projects has been inflated to create pressure on the constituents for the raising of taxes.
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35:33
We all know that taxes are going to go up in the administration as it takes the full tax levy as well as what is available to him.
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35:40
And as the councilor to my left stated, we know taxes are going to go up.
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35:43
By the amount, we don't know.
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35:46
The mayor is going to raise taxes and he's going to change the organizational structure of how this city operates.
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35:53
Behind me to my right is the fire chief.
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35:55
Every fire chief during my tenure has had the same exact position as this young man.
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36:00
I'm going to say you're a young man because you're younger than me.
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36:03
Every time there is a budget crisis, we're going to close the station, we're going to lay off firefighters.
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36:09
Scott Ling— nothing against former Mayor Ling— was the first one to do it during my tenure.
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36:14
Mayor Mitchell has done it.
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36:15
But every fire chief has been under the knife like no other department head.
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36:21
And we all say the one insurance policy that we have in the city is public safety.
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36:25
EMS, fire, and police.
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36:28
We hope we never need it.
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36:29
Nobody ever wants to call 911 for their house.
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36:32
But if you do, you don't want a situation like in Fall River where there's only 3 people on a piece of equipment and not 4.
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36:38
And we saw what happened.
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36:40
The $32 million number being proposed has been inflated by the administration to include over $14 million enhancements.
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36:50
Now, we can all say we know health insurance has gone up and pension obligations have gone up.
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36:53
Yes.
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36:54
And do we need to continue to work to reel those in?
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36:56
Yes, we do.
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36:57
And that is the body of the third floor and the second floor collectively working together for the betterment of the community.
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37:05
But that is where we have an issue.
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37:07
The third floor and the second floor doesn't always talk, never mind the third floor with anybody else.
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37:13
As was said previously, we know the fire department and the police department has gone without a contract.
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37:19
For multiple years now.
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37:20
That has been the process of every mayor that I can remember— Rosemary Turney, Fred Kalis, Scott Lang.
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37:26
It doesn't matter who that mayor is, they always go to the drag it out for as long as they can and then negotiate a contract that either has long back pay or a signing bonus.
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37:39
And at the end of the day, this is the body that the administration has to work with to remedy those situations.
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37:45
It would be nice if we could work together more than that one day out of the year.
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37:49
Thank you.
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37:51
Thank you.
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37:53
All right, anyone else?
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37:56
Okay.
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37:57
All right, I'll ask— with that, that being said, we're going to begin, uh, the budget cuts.
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38:02
I'll ask the clerk to begin.
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38:05
Mr. President, item 1 is a proposed cut to the assessors, other charges and expenses, to eliminate travel dues and Subscriptions in the 700 account in the amount of $26,087 proposed by Councilors Pereira and Ebru.
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38:20
Councilor Ebru?
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38:20
Yep.
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38:21
Yes.
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38:22
Councilor Baptiste?
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38:23
No.
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38:24
No.
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38:24
Councilor Burgow?
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38:25
Yes.
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38:26
Yes.
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38:26
Councilor Carney?
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38:27
No.
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38:28
No.
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38:28
Councilor Choquette?
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38:29
Yes.
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38:30
Yes.
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38:30
Councilor Gomes?
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38:32
No.
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38:32
Councilor Lopes?
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38:34
No.
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38:34
Councilor Oliver?
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38:35
Yes.
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38:36
Yes.
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38:36
Councilor Pemberton?
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38:38
Yes.
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38:39
Yes.
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38:39
Councilor Pereira?
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38:40
Yes.
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38:41
Yes.
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38:41
Councilor Roy?
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38:43
No.
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38:43
No.
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38:45
Passes 6 to 5.
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38:45
Item passes 6 to 5.
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38:47
We'll move to item number 3.
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38:49
Mr. President, item 3 is cutting the Auditor's Personal Services project coordinator, the 100 account, in the amount of $56,401, offered by Councilors Pemberton, Abreu, and Choquette.
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39:02
Thank you.
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39:05
Councilor Abreu.
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39:05
Yes.
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39:06
Yes.
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39:07
Councilor Baptiste.
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39:08
No.
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39:09
No.
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39:09
Councilor Burgos.
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39:10
No.
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39:11
No.
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39:11
Councilor Carney.
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39:12
No.
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39:13
No.
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39:13
Councilor Choquette.
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39:14
Yes.
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39:15
Yes.
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39:15
Councilor Gomes.
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39:17
No.
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39:17
Councilor Lopes.
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39:20
No.
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39:21
Councilor Oliver.
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39:22
No.
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39:23
No.
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39:23
Councilor Pemberton.
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39:24
Yes.
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39:25
Yes.
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39:25
Councilor Ferreira.
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39:26
No.
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39:27
No.
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39:27
Councilor Roy.
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39:28
No.
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39:29
No.
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39:30
Fails three to eight.
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39:31
Item fails three to eight.
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39:33
Thank you.
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39:36
Mr. President, item four is in the auditors in the one hundred account, the amount of two thousand dollars offered by Councilors Lopes, Abreu, and Carney.
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39:46
Councilor Abreu?
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39:46
Yep.
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39:47
Yes.
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39:48
Councilor Baptiste?
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39:49
Yes.
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39:49
Yes.
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39:50
Councilor Burgo?
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39:51
No.
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39:51
No.
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39:52
Councilor Carney?
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39:52
Yes.
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39:53
Yes.
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39:53
Councilor Choquette?
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39:54
Yes.
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39:55
Yes.
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39:55
Councilor Gomes?
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39:56
Yes.
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39:57
Yes.
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39:57
Councilor Lopes?
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39:58
Yes.
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39:59
Yes.
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39:59
Councilor Oliver?
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40:00
Yes.
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40:01
Yes.
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40:01
Councilor Pemberton?
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40:03
Yes.
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40:04
Yes.
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40:04
Councilor Pereira?
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40:05
Yes.
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40:05
Yes.
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40:06
Councilor Roy?
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40:06
Yes.
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40:07
Yes.
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40:08
Passes 10 to 1.
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40:09
Item passes 10 to 1.
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40:11
That'll bring us to number 5.
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Item 5 is from the auditors in the amount of, uh, the 200 account, the amount of $44,580, and the 60 cents, offered by Councilor Abreu.
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Councilor Abreu?
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40:25
Yes.
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40:25
Yes.
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40:26
Councilor Baptiste?
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40:27
No.
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40:27
No.
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40:28
Councilor Burgos?
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40:29
No.
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40:30
No.
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40:30
Councilor Carney?
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40:31
No.
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40:31
No.
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40:32
Councilor Chauquet?
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40:33
No.
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40:34
No.
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40:34
Councilor Gomes?
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40:36
No.
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40:36
Councilor Lopes?
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40:37
No.
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40:37
No.
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40:38
Councilor Oliver?
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40:39
No.
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40:40
No.
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40:40
Councilor Pemberton?
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40:42
No.
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40:42
No.
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40:42
Councilor Pereira?
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40:43
No.
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40:44
No.
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40:44
Councilor Roy?
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40:45
No.
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40:46
No.
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40:46
Fails 1 to 10.
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40:47
Bills 1 to 10, number 6.
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40:50
Mr. President, item 6 is in the auditor's and the 200 account in the amount of $33,435.45, offered by Councilor Abreu.
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40:58
Councilor Abreu?
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41:00
Yes.
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41:00
Councilor Baptiste?
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41:01
No.
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41:02
No.
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41:02
Councilor Burgos?
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41:03
No.
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41:04
No.
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41:04
Councilor Carney?
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41:05
No.
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41:05
No.
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41:06
Councilor Choquette?
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41:07
No.
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41:08
No.
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41:08
Councilor Gomes?
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41:09
No.
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41:09
Councilor Lopes?
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41:10
No.
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41:11
No.
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41:11
Councilor Oliver?
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41:12
No.
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41:13
No.
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41:13
Councilor Pemberton?
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41:14
No.
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41:15
No.
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41:15
Councilor Pereira?
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41:16
No.
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41:17
No.
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41:17
Councilor Roy?
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41:18
No.
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41:19
No.
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41:19
Fails 1 to 10.
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41:21
Item fails 1 to 10.
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41:23
Number 7.
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41:24
Mr. President, item 7 is in the auditor's and the 200 account in the amount of $22,782, offered by Councilors Burgo, Abreu, and Carney.
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41:32
Councilor Abreu?
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41:34
Yes.
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41:34
Councilor Baptiste?
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41:35
Yes.
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41:35
Yes.
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41:36
Councilor Burgo?
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41:37
Yes.
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41:37
Yes.
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41:38
Councilor Harney?
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41:38
Yes.
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41:39
Yes.
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41:39
Councilor Choquette?
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41:40
Yes.
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41:41
Yes.
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41:41
Councilor Gomes?
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41:42
Yes.
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41:43
Yes.
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41:43
Councilor Lopes?
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41:44
Yes.
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41:45
Yes.
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41:45
Councilor Oliver?
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41:46
Yes.
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41:46
Yes.
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41:47
Councilor Pemberton?
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41:47
Yes.
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41:48
Yes.
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41:49
Councilor Pereira?
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41:49
No.
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41:50
No.
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41:51
Councilor Roy?
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41:52
No.
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41:53
No.
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41:53
Passes 9 to 2, Mr. President.
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41:55
Item passes 9 to 2.
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41:59
That brings us to number 9.
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42:02
Mr. President, item 9 is Proposed cut in the auditors in the 700 account in the amount of $3,000 offered by Councilor Choquette, Abreu, Pemberton, and Pereira.
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42:11
Councilor Abreu?
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42:13
Yes.
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42:13
Councilor Baptiste?
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42:14
Yes.
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42:14
Yes.
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Out
42:15
Councilor Burgos?
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42:16
No.
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42:17
No.
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42:17
Councilor Carney?
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42:18
No.
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Out
42:18
No.
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42:19
Councilor Choquette?
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42:20
Yes.
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42:20
Yes.
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Out
42:21
Councilor Gomes?
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42:21
No.
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42:22
Councilor Lopes?
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42:23
Yes.
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42:24
Yes.
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42:24
Councilor Oliver?
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42:25
Yes.
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42:25
Yes.
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42:26
Councilor Pemberton?
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42:27
Yes.
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42:27
Yes.
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42:28
Councilor Pereira?
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42:28
Yes.
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42:29
Yes.
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42:29
Councilor Roy?
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42:30
No, no, passes 7-4.
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42:33
Item passes 7-4.
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42:35
That brings us to number 11.
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42:39
Mr. President, item 11 is a proposed cut to the Chief Financial Officer's office in the 200 account in the amount of $6,655, offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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42:49
Councilor Abrams?
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42:50
No.
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Out
42:51
Councilor Baptiste?
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42:52
No.
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Out
42:53
Councilor Burgos?
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42:54
Yes.
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Out
42:55
Yes.
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Out
42:55
Councilor Carney?
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42:56
No.
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42:57
No.
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Out
42:57
Councilor Choquette.
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42:58
No.
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42:59
No.
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Out
42:59
Councilor Gomes.
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43:01
No.
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43:01
Councilor Lopes.
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43:02
No.
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Out
43:03
No.
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Out
43:03
Councilor Oliver.
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43:04
No.
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43:05
No.
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43:05
Councilor Pemberton.
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43:06
Yes.
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43:07
Yes.
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43:07
Councilor Pereira.
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43:08
No.
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43:09
No.
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43:09
Councilor Roy.
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43:10
No.
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43:11
No.
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43:13
Item fails 2 to 9.
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43:14
That brings us to number 12.
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43:17
Mr. President, item 12 is the proposed cut in City Clerk's Office and 200 accounting $13, offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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43:24
Councilor Abreu?
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43:26
No.
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Out
43:26
Councilor Baptiste?
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43:27
No.
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43:28
Councilor Burgo?
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43:29
No.
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43:30
No.
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43:30
Councilor Carney?
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43:31
No.
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43:31
No.
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43:32
Councilor Choquette?
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43:32
No.
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43:33
No.
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Out
43:34
Councilor Gomes?
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43:35
No.
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Out
43:35
Councilor Lopes?
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43:36
No.
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Out
43:37
No.
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Out
43:37
Councilor Oliver?
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43:38
No.
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Out
43:39
No.
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Out
43:39
Councilor Pemberton?
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43:41
No.
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Out
43:42
No.
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43:42
Councilor Pereira?
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43:43
No.
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43:44
No.
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43:45
Councilor Roy?
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43:46
No.
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43:46
No.
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43:47
Fails 0 to 11.
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43:48
Item fails 0 to 11.
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43:50
Number 13.
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43:52
Mr. President, item 13 is a proposed cut to the city clerk's office in the 200 account in the amount of $1,000, offered by Councilor Abreu.
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43:58
Councilor Abreu?
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43:59
Yes.
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Out
43:59
Councilor Baptiste?
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44:00
No.
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44:01
No.
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Out
44:01
Councilor Burgos?
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44:02
No.
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Out
44:03
No.
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Out
44:03
Councilor Carney?
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44:04
No.
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Out
44:05
No.
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Out
44:05
Councilor Choquette?
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44:06
No.
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44:07
No.
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Out
44:08
Councilor Gomes?
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44:08
No.
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Out
44:09
Councilor Lopes?
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44:11
No.
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Out
44:11
No.
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Out
44:12
Councilor Oliver?
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44:12
No.
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Out
44:13
No.
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44:13
Councilor Pemberton?
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44:15
No.
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44:16
No.
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44:16
Councilor Pereira?
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44:17
No.
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Out
44:18
No.
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Out
44:18
Councilor Roy?
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44:19
No.
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44:20
No.
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44:20
Fails 1 to 10, Mr. President.
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44:21
Item fails 1 to 10.
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44:23
We're on to number 14.
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44:25
Mr. President, item 14 is proposed cut in the City Council office in the 700 account in the amount of $12,000, offered by Councilors Pereira, Carney, and Burgo.
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44:33
Councilor Abram?
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44:34
No.
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Out
44:35
Councilor Baptiste?
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44:36
No.
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44:37
No.
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Out
44:38
Councilor Burgo?
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44:38
Yes.
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Out
44:39
Yes.
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Out
44:40
Councilor Carney?
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44:40
Yes.
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Out
44:41
Yes.
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Out
44:41
Councilor Choquette.
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44:43
Yes.
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Out
44:43
Yes.
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Out
44:44
Councilor Gomes.
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44:44
No.
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Out
44:45
No.
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Out
44:45
Councilor Lopez.
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44:46
No.
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44:47
No.
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44:47
Councilor Oliver.
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44:48
Yes.
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Out
44:49
Yes.
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Out
44:49
Councilor Pemberton.
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44:50
Yes.
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44:51
Yes.
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Out
44:51
Councilor Pereira.
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44:52
Yes.
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Out
44:53
Yes.
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44:53
Councilor Roy.
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44:54
No.
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44:55
No.
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44:55
Passes 6 to 5, Mr. President.
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44:57
Item passes 6 to 5.
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45:01
Brings us to 17.
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45:06
Brings us to item 17.
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45:08
Thank you, Mr. President.
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45:13
Item 17 is a proposed cut to the elections office in the amount of— in the 200 account— in the amount of $19,643, offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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45:21
Councilor Abram?
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45:23
No.
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Out
45:23
Councilor Baptiste?
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45:25
No.
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Out
45:25
Councilor Burgo?
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45:26
No.
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Out
45:27
No.
In
Out
45:27
Councilor Carney?
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45:28
No.
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Out
45:28
No.
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Out
45:29
Councilor Choquette?
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45:30
No.
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Out
45:30
No.
In
Out
45:31
Councilor Gomes?
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45:32
No.
In
Out
45:32
Councilor Lopes?
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Out
45:33
No.
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Out
45:34
No.
In
Out
45:34
Councilor Oliver?
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Out
45:35
No.
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Out
45:36
No.
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Out
45:36
Councilor Pemberton?
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45:37
Yes.
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Out
45:37
Yes.
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Out
45:38
Councilor Pereira?
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45:39
No.
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Out
45:39
No.
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Out
45:40
Councilor Roy?
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45:41
No.
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Out
45:41
No.
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45:41
Fails 1 to 10.
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45:43
Item fails 1 to 10.
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45:44
Number 18 is now before us.
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45:48
Mr. President, item 18 is a proposed cut to the elections office in the amount of $200, uh, in the $200 account, the amount of $10,000 offered by Councilor Carney.
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45:57
Councilor No, Councilor Baptiste.
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46:00
No, Councilor Burgo.
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46:01
No, no, Councilor Carney.
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46:04
Yes, yes, Councilor Choquette.
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46:06
No, no, Councilor Gomes.
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46:09
No, Councilor Lopes.
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Out
46:09
No, no, Councilor Oliver.
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46:11
No, no, Councilor Pemberton.
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46:13
No, no, Councilor Pereira.
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46:15
No, no, Councilor Roy.
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46:17
No, no, fails 1 to 10, Mr. President.
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46:19
Item fails 1 to 10.
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46:21
Number 19 is now before us, Mr. President.
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46:23
Item 19 is cut.
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46:24
It's proposed cut to the Elections Office in the 200 account in the amount of $3,160, offered by Councillors Abreu and Pemberton.
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46:31
Councillor Abreu?
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46:32
Yes.
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Out
46:33
Yes.
In
Out
46:33
Councillor Baptiste?
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Out
46:35
No.
In
Out
46:35
Councillor Burgos?
In
Out
46:36
No.
In
Out
46:37
No.
In
Out
46:37
Councillor Carney?
In
Out
46:38
Yes.
In
Out
46:39
Yes.
In
Out
46:39
Councillor Choquette?
In
Out
46:41
Yes.
In
Out
46:41
Yes.
In
Out
46:42
Councillor Gomes?
In
Out
46:44
No.
In
Out
46:44
Councillor Lopes?
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Out
46:44
No.
In
Out
46:45
No.
In
Out
46:45
Councillor Oliver?
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Out
46:47
No.
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Out
46:47
No.
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Out
46:48
Councillor Pemberton?
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Out
46:48
Yes.
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Out
46:49
Yes.
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Out
46:50
Councillor Pereira?
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Out
46:50
No.
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Out
46:51
No.
In
Out
46:51
Councilor Roy.
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Out
46:52
No.
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Out
46:53
No.
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Out
46:54
Fails 4 to 7.
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46:55
Item fails 4 to 7.
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46:56
We're on to number 20.
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46:59
Mr. President, item 20 is proposed cut to EMS in the 100 account in the amount of $50,000 offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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47:06
Councilor Abreu.
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Out
47:07
No.
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Out
47:07
Councilor Baptiste.
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Out
47:09
No.
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Out
47:09
Councilor Burgo.
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Out
47:10
No.
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Out
47:11
No.
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Out
47:11
Councilor Carney.
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Out
47:12
No.
In
Out
47:13
No.
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Out
47:13
Councilor Choquette.
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Out
47:14
No.
In
Out
47:14
No.
In
Out
47:15
Councilor Gomes.
In
Out
47:15
No.
In
Out
47:16
No.
In
Out
47:16
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
47:17
No.
In
Out
47:18
No.
In
Out
47:18
Councilor Oliver?
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Out
47:19
No.
In
Out
47:20
No.
In
Out
47:20
Councilor Pemberton?
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Out
47:21
No.
In
Out
47:22
No.
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Out
47:22
Councilor Pereira?
In
Out
47:23
No.
In
Out
47:24
No.
In
Out
47:24
Councilor Roy?
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Out
47:25
No.
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Out
47:26
No.
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Out
47:27
Fails 0 to 11.
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47:28
Item fails 0 to 11.
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Out
47:31
Number 21.
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47:32
Mr. President, item 21 is a proposed cut to the Facilities and Fleet Management Office in the 100 account in the amount of $40,000 offered by Councilor Carney.
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47:40
Councilor Raybrook?
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Out
47:42
No.
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Out
47:42
Councilor Baptiste?
In
Out
47:43
No.
In
Out
47:44
Councilor Burgos?
In
Out
47:44
No.
In
Out
47:45
No.
In
Out
47:45
Councilor Carney?
In
Out
47:46
Yes.
In
Out
47:47
Yes.
In
Out
47:47
Councilor Choquette?
In
Out
47:48
No.
In
Out
47:49
No.
In
Out
47:49
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
47:50
No.
In
Out
47:51
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
47:53
No.
In
Out
47:53
No.
In
Out
47:54
Councilor Oliver?
In
Out
47:56
Yes.
In
Out
47:57
Yes.
In
Out
47:58
Councilor Pemberton?
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Out
47:59
No.
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Out
48:00
No.
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Out
48:00
Councilor Pereira?
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Out
48:01
No.
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Out
48:02
No.
In
Out
48:02
Councilor Roy?
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Out
48:03
No.
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Out
48:03
No.
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Out
48:04
Fails 2 to 9.
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48:05
Item fails 2 to 9.
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48:06
We're on to number 22.
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48:07
Mr. President, item 22, proposed cut to facilities and fleet management, the 200 account, in the amount of $150,000, proposed by Councilor Carney.
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48:16
Councilor Abreu?
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Out
48:18
No.
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Out
48:18
Councilor Baptiste?
In
Out
48:19
No.
In
Out
48:19
Councilor Burgos?
In
Out
48:21
No.
In
Out
48:21
No.
In
Out
48:22
Councilor Carney?
In
Out
48:22
Yes.
In
Out
48:23
Yes.
In
Out
48:24
Councilor Choquette?
In
Out
48:24
No.
In
Out
48:25
No.
In
Out
48:26
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
48:26
No.
In
Out
48:27
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
48:28
No.
In
Out
48:29
No.
In
Out
48:29
Councilor Oliver?
In
Out
48:30
Yes.
In
Out
48:31
Yes.
In
Out
48:31
Councilor Pemberton?
In
Out
48:32
No.
In
Out
48:33
No.
In
Out
48:33
Councilor Pereira?
In
Out
48:34
No.
In
Out
48:35
No.
In
Out
48:35
Councilor Royd?
In
Out
48:36
No.
In
Out
48:36
No.
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Out
48:37
Fails 2 to 9.
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Out
48:38
Item fails 2 to 9.
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Out
48:40
Number 23 is before us.
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48:41
Mr. President, item 23 is proposed cut to facilities and fleet management in the 200 account in the amount of $48,013, proposed by Councilor Pemberton.
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Out
48:50
Councilor Abreu?
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Out
48:51
No.
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Out
48:52
No.
In
Out
48:53
Councilor Baptiste?
In
Out
48:54
No.
In
Out
48:54
Councilor Burgos?
In
Out
48:55
No.
In
Out
48:56
No.
In
Out
48:56
Councilor Carney?
In
Out
48:57
Yes.
In
Out
48:58
Yes.
In
Out
48:58
Councilor Choquette?
In
Out
49:00
No.
In
Out
49:00
No.
In
Out
49:01
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
49:02
No.
In
Out
49:03
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
49:03
No.
In
Out
49:04
No.
In
Out
49:04
Councilor Oliver?
In
Out
49:05
Yes.
In
Out
49:06
Yes.
In
Out
49:06
Councilor Pemberton?
In
Out
49:07
Yes.
In
Out
49:08
Yes.
In
Out
49:08
Councilor Pereira?
In
Out
49:09
Yes.
In
Out
49:09
Yes.
In
Out
49:10
Councilor Roy?
In
Out
49:11
No.
In
Out
49:11
No.
In
Out
49:12
Fails 4 to 7.
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Out
49:14
Item fails 4 to 7.
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Out
49:16
Number 24.
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Out
49:18
Mr. President, item 24 is a proposed cut to facilities and fleet management in the 400 account in the amount of $245,988.
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49:27
Opposed by Councilor Burgow.
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Out
49:28
Councilor Abreu?
In
Out
49:30
No.
In
Out
49:30
Councilor Baptiste?
In
Out
49:32
No.
In
Out
49:32
Councilor Burgow?
In
Out
49:33
Yes.
In
Out
49:34
Yes.
In
Out
49:34
Councilor Carney?
In
Out
49:35
No.
In
Out
49:36
No.
In
Out
49:36
Councilor Chauquette?
In
Out
49:37
No.
In
Out
49:38
No.
In
Out
49:38
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
49:39
No.
In
Out
49:40
No.
In
Out
49:40
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
49:41
No.
In
Out
49:42
No.
In
Out
49:42
Councilor Oliver?
In
Out
49:43
Yes.
In
Out
49:43
Yes.
In
Out
49:44
Councilor Pemberton?
In
Out
49:45
No.
In
Out
49:46
No.
In
Out
49:46
Councilor Pereira?
In
Out
49:47
No.
In
Out
49:48
No.
In
Out
49:48
Councilor Roy?
In
Out
49:49
No.
In
Out
49:50
No.
In
Out
49:50
Fails 2 to 9.
In
Out
49:51
Item fails 2 to 9.
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Out
49:52
Number 25.
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Out
49:55
Mr. President, item 25 is the facilities and fleet management in the 400 account in the amount of $200,000, proposed by Councillors Carney and Burgo.
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Out
50:03
Councillor Abreu?
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Out
50:04
No.
In
Out
50:04
Councillor Baptiste?
In
Out
50:05
No.
In
Out
50:06
Councillor Burgo?
In
Out
50:07
Yes.
In
Out
50:08
Yes.
In
Out
50:08
Councillor Carney?
In
Out
50:09
Yes.
In
Out
50:09
Yes.
In
Out
50:10
Councillor Chonkette?
In
Out
50:11
No.
In
Out
50:11
No.
In
Out
50:12
Councillor Gomes?
In
Out
50:13
No.
In
Out
50:13
Councillor Lopes?
In
Out
50:14
Yes.
In
Out
50:15
Yes.
In
Out
50:15
Councillor Oliver?
In
Out
50:16
Yes.
In
Out
50:17
Yes.
In
Out
50:17
Councillor Pemberton?
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50:19
Yes.
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50:19
Yes.
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50:19
Councilor Ferreira?
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50:21
Yes.
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50:22
Yes.
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50:22
Councilor Roy?
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50:24
No.
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50:24
No.
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50:25
Passes 6 to 5.
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50:26
Item passes 6 to 5.
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50:27
That takes us to 34.
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50:31
34.
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50:33
Thank you.
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50:34
No problem.
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50:35
Appreciate that.
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50:36
Yeah.
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50:37
25.
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50:39
Mr. President, item 34 is a proposed cut to facilities and fleet management in the 800 account in the amount of $70,000.
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50:44
$73,500, proposed by Councillors Abreu and Carney.
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50:48
Councillor Abreu?
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50:49
Yes.
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50:50
Yes.
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50:51
Councillor Baptiste?
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50:51
No.
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50:52
No.
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50:52
Councillor Burgos?
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50:53
No.
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50:54
No.
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50:54
Councillor Carney?
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50:55
Yes.
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50:56
Yes.
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50:56
Councillor Chauquet?
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50:57
Yes.
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50:58
Yes.
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50:58
Councillor Gomes?
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51:00
No.
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Out
51:00
Councillor Lopes?
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51:01
No.
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51:02
No.
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51:02
Councillor Oliver?
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51:04
Yes.
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51:05
Yes.
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Out
51:05
Councillor Pemberton?
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51:06
Yes.
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Out
51:06
Yes.
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Out
51:07
Councillor Pereira?
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51:08
No.
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51:09
No.
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51:09
Councillor Roy?
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51:10
Nope.
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51:10
No, fails 5 to 6.
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51:12
Item fails 5 to 6.
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51:18
Number 35.
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51:20
Mr. President, item 35 is a proposed cut to the fire department in the 700 account in the amount of $2,152, proposed by Councilor Choquette.
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51:29
Councilor Abril.
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51:33
Number 35, councilor, from the fire department.
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51:36
No.
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51:37
No.
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51:37
Councilor Baptiste.
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51:38
No.
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51:39
No.
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51:39
Councilor Burgos.
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51:40
No.
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51:41
No.
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51:41
Councilor Carney.
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51:42
No.
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51:42
No.
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51:43
Councilor Choquette.
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51:44
No.
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51:44
No.
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51:45
Councilor Gomes.
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51:46
No.
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51:47
No.
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51:47
Councilor Lopes.
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51:48
Just one no.
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51:50
No.
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51:50
Councilor Oliver.
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51:51
No.
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51:52
No.
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51:52
Councilor Pedersen.
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51:53
No.
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51:54
No.
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51:54
Councilor Pereira.
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51:55
No.
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51:56
No.
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51:56
Councilor Roy.
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51:57
No.
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51:57
No.
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51:58
0 to 11, Mr. President.
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51:59
0 to 11.
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52:03
Number 36.
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52:04
Mr. President, item 36 is a proposed cut to Health and Human Services in the 100 account in the amount of $102,000, proposed by Councilor Carney.
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52:12
Mr. President?
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52:15
Yes.
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52:16
Councilor Burlow.
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52:18
Um, I just want to remind colleagues that if they change their mind on cuts, they can withdraw them instead of going through the rigmarole of voting no and having zero 0 to 11.
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52:28
Also on this cut, I want to note that the position of assistant director of public health, it is a filled position.
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52:38
I know there might have been some confusion about whether or not we have actually hired someone for assistant director.
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52:44
Obviously given the situation of the combined departments, 5 departments into one, I think it would be crucial to have this hierarchy.
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52:56
Obviously, we know that the director of community services was eliminated, director of parks and recreation.
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53:03
We still aren't sure what it will look like right now with just a health director and then the 2 assistant directors trying to oversee 5 departments consolidated into one.
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53:14
So I just— I rise today to make sure my colleagues are aware that there is someone in this role right now, and to eliminate this position position would to be laying off another person in a time when this department has already seen huge reductions.
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53:28
Thank you.
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53:29
Thank you, Councilor.
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53:30
Item number 36.
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53:34
Councilor Abramowicz?
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53:36
No.
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53:37
Councilor Baptiste?
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53:38
No.
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Out
53:38
Councilor Burgos?
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53:39
No.
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53:40
No.
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Out
53:40
Councilor Carney?
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53:41
Yes.
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53:42
Yes.
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Out
53:42
Councilor Choquette?
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53:43
No.
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53:44
No.
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Out
53:44
Councilor Gomes?
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53:46
No.
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Out
53:46
Councilor Lopez?
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53:47
No.
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Out
53:47
Councilor Oliver?
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53:49
No.
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Out
53:49
No.
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Out
53:49
Councilor Pemberton?
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53:50
No.
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Out
53:51
No.
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Out
53:51
Councilor Pereira?
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53:52
No.
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Out
53:53
No.
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Out
53:53
Councilor Roy?
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53:54
No.
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53:55
No.
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53:55
Fails 1 to 10.
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53:56
Item fails 1 to 10.
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53:57
Number 37.
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54:01
Mr. President, item 37 is a cut to the Health and Human Services Department, the 100 account, in the amount of $54,427, offered by Councilor Choquette.
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54:10
Councilor Abreu?
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54:12
No.
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Out
54:12
Councilor Baptiste?
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54:14
No.
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Out
54:14
Councilor Burgos?
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54:15
No.
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Out
54:15
No.
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Out
54:16
Councilor Carney?
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54:16
Yes.
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54:17
Yes.
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54:18
Councilor Chilcutt?
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54:18
Yes.
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Out
54:19
Yes.
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Out
54:19
Councilor Gomes?
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54:21
No.
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Out
54:21
Councilor Lopes?
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Out
54:22
No.
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Out
54:22
No.
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Out
54:23
Councilor Oliver?
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54:25
Yes.
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Out
54:25
Councilor Pemberton?
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54:26
Yes.
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Out
54:26
Yes.
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Out
54:27
Councilor Pereira?
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54:28
No.
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Out
54:29
No.
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Out
54:29
Councilor Roy?
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54:30
No.
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54:31
No.
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54:31
Fails 4 to 7, Mr. President.
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54:33
Item fails 4 to 7.
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54:34
We run to number 38.
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54:36
Mr. President, item 38 is cut to the Health and Human Services Department in the 200 account in the amount of $3,044, offered by Councilors Abreu and Pereira.
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54:45
Councilor Abreu?
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54:46
Yes.
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Out
54:47
Councilor Baptiste?
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54:47
No.
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Out
54:48
Councilor Bruggo?
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Out
54:49
No.
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Out
54:50
No.
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Out
54:50
Councilor Carney?
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54:51
Yes.
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Out
54:52
Yes.
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Out
54:52
Councilor Choquette?
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54:53
Yes.
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Out
54:54
Yes.
In
Out
54:54
Councilor Gomes?
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Out
54:56
No.
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Out
54:56
Councilor Lopes?
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Out
54:57
No.
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Out
54:58
No.
In
Out
54:58
Councilor Oliver?
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55:01
No.
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Out
55:02
No.
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Out
55:02
Councilor Pemberton?
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55:03
Yes.
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Out
55:04
Yes.
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Out
55:04
Councilor Pereira?
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55:05
Yes.
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Out
55:06
Yes.
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Out
55:06
Councilor Roy?
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55:07
No.
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Out
55:08
No.
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Out
55:08
Fails 5 to 6.
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55:09
Item fails 5 to 6.
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55:10
Number 39 is before us.
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55:12
Mr. President, item 39 is a proposed cut to the Health and Human Services Office in the amount of $400— in the $400 account in the amount of $1,620, offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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55:23
Councilor Abram?
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55:23
Yes.
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Out
55:24
Yes.
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Out
55:25
Councilor Baptiste?
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55:26
No.
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Out
55:27
No.
In
Out
55:27
Councilor Burgos?
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Out
55:28
No.
In
Out
55:29
No.
In
Out
55:29
Councilor Carney?
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Out
55:29
Yes.
In
Out
55:30
Yes.
In
Out
55:31
Councilor Choquette?
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55:32
No.
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Out
55:32
No.
In
Out
55:33
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
55:35
No.
In
Out
55:36
Councilor Lopes?
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Out
55:37
No.
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Out
55:37
Councilor Oliver?
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Out
55:38
Yes.
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Out
55:39
Yes.
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Out
55:39
Councilor Pemberton?
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Out
55:40
Yes.
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Out
55:41
Yes.
In
Out
55:41
Councilor Pereira?
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Out
55:42
Yes.
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Out
55:42
Yes.
In
Out
55:43
Councilor Roy?
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55:44
No.
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Out
55:44
No.
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55:45
That's 5 to 6.
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55:46
Item fails 5 to 6.
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55:47
Number 40.
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55:48
Mr. President, item 40 is cut to the Health and Human Services Department in the 700 account in the amount of $100,000, offered by Councilor Carney, Councilor Abreu, No.
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55:58
Councilor Baptiste?
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56:00
No.
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Out
56:00
Councilor Burgos?
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Out
56:01
No.
In
Out
56:01
No.
In
Out
56:02
Councilor Carney?
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Out
56:02
Yes.
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Out
56:03
Yes.
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Out
56:03
Councilor Choquette?
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Out
56:05
No.
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Out
56:06
No.
In
Out
56:06
Councilor Gomes?
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Out
56:07
No.
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Out
56:08
No.
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Out
56:08
Councilor Lopes?
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Out
56:10
No.
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Out
56:10
No.
In
Out
56:10
Councilor Oliver?
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56:11
Yes.
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Out
56:12
Yes.
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Out
56:12
Councilor Pemberton?
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Out
56:13
Yes.
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Out
56:14
Yes.
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Out
56:14
Councilor Pereira?
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56:15
No.
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Out
56:16
No.
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Out
56:16
Councilor Roy?
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56:17
No.
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Out
56:18
No.
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56:18
Fails 3 to 8.
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56:20
Item fails 3 to 8.
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56:21
Item 41 is before Mr. President, item 41 is proposed cut to Health and Human Services in the 700 account in the amount of $99,600, offered by Councilor Abreu.
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56:31
Councilor Abreu?
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Out
56:32
Yes.
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Out
56:33
Yes.
In
Out
56:33
Councilor Baptiste?
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Out
56:35
No.
In
Out
56:35
Councilor Burgo?
In
Out
56:36
No.
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Out
56:36
No.
In
Out
56:37
Councilor Carney?
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Out
56:37
Yes.
In
Out
56:38
Yes.
In
Out
56:38
Councilor Choquette?
In
Out
56:39
Yes.
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Out
56:40
Yes.
In
Out
56:40
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
56:42
No.
In
Out
56:42
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
56:44
No.
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Out
56:45
No.
In
Out
56:45
Councilor Oliver?
In
Out
56:46
Yes.
In
Out
56:47
Yes.
In
Out
56:47
Councilor Pemberton?
In
Out
56:48
Yes.
In
Out
56:49
Yes.
In
Out
56:49
Councilor Pereira?
In
Out
56:50
No.
In
Out
56:51
No.
In
Out
56:51
Councilor Roy?
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Out
56:52
No.
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Out
56:53
No.
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Out
56:54
Fails 5 to 6.
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56:55
Item fails 5 to 6.
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Out
56:56
Number 42.
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57:00
Mr. President, item 42 is cut to the Health and Human Services Department in the 700 account in the amount of $3,300, offered by Councilors Choquette, Abreu, and Pemberton.
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57:08
Councilor Abreu?
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Out
57:10
Yes.
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Out
57:10
Councilor Baptiste?
In
Out
57:11
No.
In
Out
57:12
Councilor Burgo?
In
Out
57:13
No.
In
Out
57:13
No.
In
Out
57:13
Councilor Carney?
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Out
57:14
Yes.
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Out
57:14
Yes.
In
Out
57:15
Yes.
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Out
57:15
Councilor Choquette.
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Out
57:16
Yes.
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Out
57:17
Yes.
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Out
57:17
Councilor Gomes.
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Out
57:18
No.
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Out
57:19
No.
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Out
57:19
Councilor Lopes.
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57:20
Yes.
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Out
57:21
Yes.
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Out
57:21
Councilor Oliver.
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Out
57:22
Yes.
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Out
57:22
Yes.
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Out
57:23
Councilor Pemberton.
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Out
57:25
Yes.
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Out
57:25
Yes.
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Out
57:25
Councilor Ferreira.
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Out
57:26
Yes.
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Out
57:26
Yes.
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Out
57:27
Councilor Roy.
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57:29
No.
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Out
57:29
No.
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57:30
Passes 7 to 4.
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57:31
Item passes 7 to 4.
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57:33
That brings us to number 44.
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57:38
Mr. President, item 44 is cut to the library.
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57:41
In the 200 account, the amount of $5,663.
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57:48
43.
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57:49
Oh yes, I'm sorry, labor relations.
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57:52
Oh, that's okay.
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57:55
Nope, my fault.
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57:56
Mr. President, item 43 is a proposed cut to the labor relations in the 700 account in the amount of $1,331, proposed by Councilors Choquette, Abreu, and Pemberton.
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58:07
On the question, Councilor Abram.
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58:08
Yes.
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Out
58:09
Yes.
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Out
58:10
Councilor Baptiste.
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Out
58:11
No.
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Out
58:12
No.
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Out
58:12
Councilor Burgos.
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Out
58:15
No.
In
Out
58:16
No.
In
Out
58:16
Councilor Carney.
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Out
58:17
Yes.
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Out
58:18
Yes.
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Out
58:18
Councilor Choquette.
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58:19
Yes.
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Out
58:20
Yes.
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Out
58:20
Councilor Gomes.
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Out
58:22
No.
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Out
58:22
No.
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Out
58:22
Councilor Lopes.
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Out
58:23
Yes.
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Out
58:24
Yes.
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Out
58:24
Councilor Oliver.
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Out
58:25
Yes.
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Out
58:26
Yes.
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Out
58:26
Councilor Pemberton.
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Out
58:27
Yes.
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Out
58:29
Yes.
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Out
58:29
Councilor Pereira.
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Out
58:30
Yes.
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Out
58:31
Yes.
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Out
58:31
Councilor Roy.
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58:32
No.
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Out
58:33
No.
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58:34
Passes 7 to 4, Mr. President.
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58:36
Item passes 7 to 4.
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58:38
Now we're on to 44.
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58:39
My apologies, Mr. President.
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58:42
Item 44 is proposed cut to the library in the 200 account in the amount of $5,663, offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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58:49
Councilor Abreu?
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58:51
Yes.
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Out
58:51
Yes.
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Out
58:52
Councilor Baptiste?
In
Out
58:53
No.
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Out
58:54
No.
In
Out
58:54
Councilor Borgo?
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Out
58:55
No.
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Out
58:56
No.
In
Out
58:56
Councilor Carney?
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Out
58:57
No.
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Out
58:57
No.
In
Out
58:58
Councilor Choquette?
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58:59
No.
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Out
58:59
No.
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Out
59:00
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
59:01
No.
In
Out
59:01
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
59:02
No.
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Out
59:03
No.
In
Out
59:03
Councilor Oliver?
In
Out
59:04
Yes.
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Out
59:04
Yes.
In
Out
59:05
Councilor Pemberton?
In
Out
59:06
Yes.
In
Out
59:06
Yes.
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Out
59:07
Councilor Pereira?
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Out
59:07
No.
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Out
59:08
No.
In
Out
59:09
Councilor Roy?
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Out
59:10
No.
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Out
59:11
No.
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Out
59:11
Fails 3 to 8.
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59:11
Item fails 3 to 8.
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59:13
Number 45 is before us.
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59:16
Mr. President, item 45 is a proposed cut to the library in the 400 account in the amount of $3,500, sponsored by Councilor Abreu.
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59:22
Councilor Abreu.
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Out
59:23
Yes.
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Out
59:24
Councilor Baptiste?
In
Out
59:25
No.
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Out
59:26
Councilor Burgos?
In
Out
59:27
No.
In
Out
59:27
Councilor Carney?
In
Out
59:28
No.
In
Out
59:29
No.
In
Out
59:29
Councilor Choquette?
In
Out
59:30
No.
In
Out
59:31
No.
In
Out
59:31
Councilor Gomes?
In
Out
59:32
No.
In
Out
59:34
No.
In
Out
59:34
Councilor Lopes?
In
Out
59:34
No.
In
Out
59:35
No.
In
Out
59:35
Councilor Oliver?
In
Out
59:36
Yes.
In
Out
59:37
Yes.
In
Out
59:37
Councilor Pemberton?
In
Out
59:38
Yes.
In
Out
59:39
Yes.
In
Out
59:39
Councilor Pereira?
In
Out
59:40
No.
In
Out
59:41
No.
In
Out
59:41
Councilor Roy?
In
Out
59:42
No.
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59:43
No.
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59:43
Fails 3 to 8.
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59:44
Item fails 3 to 8.
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59:45
Number 46.
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59:47
Mr. President, item 46.
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59:49
This proposed cut to the management and information systems in the 100 account in the amount of $86,400, sponsored by Councilor Choquette.
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59:56
Councilor Abram?
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59:58
No.
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59:58
Councilor Baptiste?
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59:59
No.
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1:00:00
No.
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1:00:00
Councilor Burgo?
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1:00:06
No.
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1:00:06
Councilor Carney?
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1:00:07
No.
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1:00:07
No.
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1:00:08
Councilor Choquette?
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1:00:09
Yes.
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1:00:10
Yes.
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1:00:10
Councilor Gomes?
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1:00:11
No.
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1:00:12
No.
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1:00:12
Councilor Lopes?
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1:00:13
No.
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1:00:13
No.
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1:00:14
Councilor Oliver?
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1:00:15
Yes.
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1:00:15
Yes.
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1:00:16
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:00:18
Yes.
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1:00:19
Councilor Pereira?
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1:00:20
No.
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1:00:20
No.
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1:00:21
Councilor Roy?
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1:00:22
No.
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1:00:22
No.
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1:00:23
Fails 3 to 8.
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1:00:24
Item fails 3 to 8.
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1:00:25
That brings us to number 47.
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1:00:28
Mr. President, item 47 is proposed cut to management and information systems in the 200 account in the amount of $100,000 by Councilor Carney.
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1:00:35
Councilor Abram?
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1:00:36
No.
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1:00:37
No.
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1:00:37
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:00:38
No.
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1:00:39
No.
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1:00:39
Councilor Burgos?
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1:00:40
No.
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1:00:41
Councilor Carney?
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1:00:42
Yes.
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1:00:43
Yes.
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1:00:43
Councilor Chauquette?
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1:00:44
No.
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1:00:44
No.
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1:00:44
Councilor Gomes?
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1:00:46
No.
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1:00:46
Councilor Lopes?
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1:00:47
No.
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1:00:48
No.
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1:00:48
Councilor Oliver?
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1:00:49
Yes.
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1:00:50
Yes.
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1:00:50
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:00:51
Yes.
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1:00:52
Yes.
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1:00:52
Councilor Pereira?
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1:00:53
No.
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1:00:54
No.
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1:00:54
Councilor Roy?
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1:00:55
No.
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1:00:55
No.
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1:00:56
Fails 3 to 8.
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1:00:56
Item fails 3 to 8.
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1:00:58
Number 48.
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1:00:59
Mr. President, item 48 is a cut to the management information systems in the 200 account in the amount of $36,955, offered by Councillor Choquette, Habroux, Pemberton, and Pereira.
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1:01:10
Councillor Habroux?
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1:01:12
Yes.
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1:01:13
Councillor Baptiste?
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1:01:14
No.
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1:01:14
Councillor Burgombe?
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1:01:16
Yes.
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1:01:16
Councillor Carney?
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1:01:17
Yes.
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1:01:18
Councillor Choquette?
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1:01:20
Yes.
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1:01:20
Councillor Gomes?
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1:01:21
No.
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1:01:22
Councillor Lopes?
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1:01:23
No.
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1:01:23
Councillor Oliver?
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1:01:24
Yes.
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1:01:25
Councillor Pemberton?
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1:01:26
Yes.
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1:01:27
Councillor Pereira?
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1:01:28
Yes.
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1:01:29
Councillor Roy?
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1:01:31
No.
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1:01:31
Passes 7 to 4.
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1:01:33
Item passes 7 to 4.
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1:01:35
That brings us to number 49.
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1:01:38
Mr. President, item 49 is a cut to the management information systems in the 700 account in the amount of $10,600, proposed by Councilors Choquette, Abreu, Pemberton, and Pereira.
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1:01:48
Councilor Abreu?
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1:01:49
Yes.
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1:01:50
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:01:51
No.
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1:01:51
No.
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1:01:52
Councilor Burgomaster?
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1:01:54
Yes.
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1:01:54
Councilor Carney?
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1:01:55
Yes.
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1:01:56
Yes.
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1:01:56
Councilor Choquette?
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1:01:57
Yes.
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1:01:57
Yes.
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1:01:58
Councilor Holmes?
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1:01:59
No.
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1:02:00
Councilor Lopes?
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1:02:01
No.
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1:02:02
No.
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1:02:02
Councilor Oliver?
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1:02:03
Yes.
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1:02:04
Yes.
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1:02:04
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:02:05
Yes.
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1:02:06
Yes.
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1:02:06
Councilor Pereira?
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1:02:07
Yes.
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1:02:07
Yes.
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1:02:08
Councilor Roy?
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1:02:09
No.
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1:02:09
No.
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1:02:10
Passes 7-4.
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1:02:11
Items passed 7-4.
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1:02:13
That brings us to number 51.
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1:02:16
Mr. President, item 51 is a proposed cut to the mayor's office and personal services in the 100 account in the amount of $342,000.
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1:02:24
$1,542, offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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1:02:28
Councilor Abramowicz.
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1:02:29
On the question— sorry, Councilor.
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1:02:31
On the question, Chair recognizes Councilor Oliver.
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1:02:33
Thank you, Mr. President.
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1:02:34
I only rise to remind my colleagues— I know they don't need reminding— but the general public that the administration has already said that they are not going to observe cuts to this department.
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1:02:46
This is an opportunity in which the council can knowingly cut this department knowing that the mayor is going to have to find it from somewhere else.
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1:02:54
As I said in my opening remarks, it's there.
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1:02:56
We might not agree where it is or where— what department the money is sitting in, but I assure you they will find it to fund these positions.
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1:03:05
We are not going to make this cut assuming that we're going to lay anybody off.
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1:03:10
They've made that clear.
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1:03:11
So this is an opportunity to reduce this department knowing full well that they are not going to adhere to the council's cuts, and they're going to have to come back in front of the council to remedy that situation, whether it be through a supplemental or a transfer from another department, which will— they'll then show us their priorities.
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1:03:31
So I hope my colleagues will vote accordingly while we go through this department.
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1:03:36
Thank you.
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1:03:37
Excuse me.
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1:03:40
Thank you, Council Oliver.
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1:03:42
Anyone else?
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1:03:43
All right, I'll ask the clerk to call the roll on number 51.
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1:03:46
Councilor Abram.
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1:03:48
No.
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1:03:48
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:03:49
No.
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1:03:49
No.
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1:03:50
Councilor Burgo.
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1:03:51
No.
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1:03:52
Councilor Carney.
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1:03:53
No.
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1:03:53
No.
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1:03:54
Councilor Choquette.
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1:03:56
No.
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1:03:57
No.
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1:03:57
Councilor Gomes.
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1:03:59
No.
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1:03:59
Councilor Lopez.
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1:04:00
No.
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1:04:01
No.
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1:04:01
Councilor Oliver.
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1:04:02
Yes.
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1:04:03
Yes.
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1:04:03
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:04:04
Yes.
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1:04:05
Yes.
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1:04:05
Councilor Pereira.
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1:04:06
No.
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1:04:07
No.
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1:04:07
Councilor Roy.
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1:04:08
No.
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1:04:09
No.
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1:04:09
Fails 2 to 9.
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1:04:10
Item fails 2 to 9.
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1:04:11
Number 52.
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1:04:12
Mr. President, item 52 is a proposed cut to the mayor's office in the 100 account in the amount of $245,480, proposed by Councilor Oliver.
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1:04:23
Councilor Avery.
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1:04:25
Oh, on the question, chair recognizes Councilor, uh, Burgo.
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1:04:30
Um, yes, thank you.
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1:04:32
I appreciate the comments from my colleague from Ward 3 I wanted to speak on this one in particular and not to go after what he said because this one in particular I'm going to join on in voting yes.
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1:04:43
I know initially I had been saying all along throughout the budget meetings and in private meetings with the administration that we want to eliminate the one chief of staff position, which in my very lengthy opening remarks I explained explained that the administration obviously titles one of their positions as Chief of Staff, which is actually a Chief Operating Officer position.
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1:05:08
Um, we want to eliminate it.
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1:05:10
Uh, not because we're attacking his office, but because we see obviously in other departments we've consolidated 5 departments into one.
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1:05:18
There isn't really a need for that much oversight.
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1:05:21
That's one justification there.
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1:05:23
But as my other colleague has mentioned to me during the mayor's budget— the chief of staff during the mayor's presentation department, they had acknowledged that one of the administrative manager positions would not— they would be leaving and that they would be looking to hire someone.
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1:05:42
Again, during a time where obviously we got rid of vacancies and other positions that in that case, this is a time where we shouldn't be hiring new people.
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1:05:51
That's why during this next cut, I will be voting yes.
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1:05:55
I find it necessary to stand up to justify why I have to vote— why I'm going to vote yes, even though I've justified it during many budget hearing meetings and other private meetings that I've had with the administration, because I want to be clear, this is not politically motivated.
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1:06:11
It just makes fiscal sense, because in other departments we've done the same.
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1:06:15
When there was a vacancy we did not hire someone.
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1:06:18
We remember just last year during FY26 budget when we had austerity measures, we did not hire people.
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1:06:26
When someone left a position that was vacant, we did not hire someone.
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1:06:29
So I will be joining on for this next cut, and I hope that you all would join me in support of that— this next cut as well.
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1:06:36
Thank you.
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1:06:38
Thank you, Councilor.
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1:06:39
Anyone else?
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1:06:40
I'll ask the clerk to call the roll on number 52.
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1:06:43
Councilor Heroux?
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1:06:44
No.
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1:06:45
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:06:45
Yes.
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1:06:46
Yes.
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1:06:46
Councilor Burgos?
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1:06:47
Yes.
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1:06:48
Yes.
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1:06:48
Councilor Carney?
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1:06:49
No.
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1:06:50
No.
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1:06:50
Councilor Choquette?
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1:06:52
Yes.
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1:06:53
Yes.
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1:06:53
Councilor Gomes?
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1:06:55
Yes.
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1:06:56
Yes.
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1:06:56
Councilor Lopes?
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1:06:57
No.
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1:06:58
No.
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1:06:58
Councilor Oliver?
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1:06:59
Yes.
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1:07:00
Yes.
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1:07:00
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:07:01
Yes.
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1:07:02
Yes.
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1:07:02
Councilor Pereira?
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1:07:04
No.
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1:07:04
No.
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1:07:05
Councilor Roy?
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1:07:06
No.
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1:07:06
No.
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1:07:07
Passes 6 to 5.
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1:07:08
Item passes.
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1:07:09
6 to 5.
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1:07:11
That brings us to number 58.
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1:07:19
Mr. President, item 58 is proposed cut from the mayor's office in the 200 account in the amount of $8,000, sponsored by Councilor Oliver.
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1:07:27
Councilor Abreu?
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1:07:28
No.
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1:07:29
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:07:30
No.
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1:07:30
No.
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1:07:30
Councilor Burgos?
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1:07:31
Yes.
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1:07:32
Yes.
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1:07:33
Councilor Carney?
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1:07:34
No.
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1:07:34
No.
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1:07:35
Councilor Chilcott?
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1:07:36
Yes.
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1:07:37
Yes.
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1:07:37
Councilor Gomes?
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1:07:40
I'm sorry, Councilor?
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1:07:41
No.
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1:07:42
No.
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1:07:43
Councilor Lopes?
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1:07:46
Councilor Oliver?
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1:07:47
Yes.
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1:07:48
Yes.
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1:07:48
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:07:50
Yes.
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1:07:50
Yes.
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1:07:50
Councilor Pereira?
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1:07:51
No.
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1:07:52
No.
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1:07:52
Councilor Roy?
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1:07:53
No.
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1:07:54
No.
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1:07:55
Fails 4 to 6.
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1:07:57
Item fails 4 to 6.
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1:07:59
Number 59 is before Mr. President, item 59 is proposed cut to the mayor's office in the 200 account in the amount of $7,591, proposed by Councilor Oliver.
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1:08:10
Councilor Abreu?
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1:08:12
No.
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1:08:13
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:08:14
No.
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1:08:14
No.
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1:08:14
Councilor Burgos?
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1:08:15
Yes.
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1:08:16
Yes.
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1:08:16
Councilor Carney?
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1:08:17
No.
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1:08:18
No.
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1:08:18
Councilor Choquette?
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1:08:20
Yes.
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1:08:20
Yes.
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1:08:21
Councilor Gomes?
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1:08:22
No.
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1:08:22
Councilor Lopes?
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1:08:27
Councillor Oliver?
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1:08:28
Yes.
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1:08:29
Yes.
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1:08:29
Councillor Pemberton?
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1:08:30
Yes.
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1:08:31
Yes.
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1:08:31
Councillor Pereira?
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1:08:32
No.
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1:08:33
No.
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1:08:33
Councillor Roy?
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1:08:35
No.
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1:08:35
No.
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1:08:35
Fails 4 to 6.
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1:08:36
Item fails 4 to 6.
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1:08:38
Number 60, the chair recognizes Councillor Oliver.
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1:08:42
Thank you, Mr. President.
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1:08:43
I, I rise.
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1:08:44
I know maybe the description is scaring some of my colleagues for voting no on this, that it's for the senior dances.
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1:08:49
These are for the Mayor John Mitchell Senior Dances that are paid for by, um, our city budget.
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1:08:56
That's how they tend to get advertised as.
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1:08:59
The mayor's got a fundraiser today.
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1:09:01
I think he can put on senior dances with his coffers if he chooses to do so.
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1:09:06
I hope that the folks will join us and continue to cut these measures that at this time we just can't simply pay for.
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1:09:14
Thank you.
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1:09:16
Thank you, Councilor.
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1:09:16
Anyone else?
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1:09:17
Clerk will call the roll.
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1:09:19
Councilor Abramowicz?
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1:09:21
No.
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1:09:21
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:09:21
No.
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1:09:22
No.
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1:09:22
Councilor Burgos?
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1:09:23
Yes.
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1:09:24
Councilor Carney?
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1:09:25
No.
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1:09:26
Councilor Chilcote?
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1:09:27
Yes.
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1:09:27
Yes.
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1:09:28
Councilor Gomes?
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1:09:29
No.
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1:09:30
Councilor Lopes?
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1:09:31
Councilor Oliver?
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1:09:32
Yes.
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1:09:32
Yes.
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1:09:33
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:09:34
Yes.
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1:09:34
Yes.
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1:09:35
Councilor Pereira?
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1:09:35
No.
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1:09:36
No.
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1:09:37
Councilor Roy?
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1:09:38
No.
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1:09:38
No.
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1:09:39
Fails 4 to 6.
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1:09:39
Item fails 4 to 6.
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1:09:40
Number 61 is before us.
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1:09:42
Mr. President, item 61 is a cut to the Mayor's Office in the $200 count in the amount of $4,658, sponsored by Councilor Oliver.
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1:09:49
Councilor Abreu?
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1:09:51
No.
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1:09:51
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:09:52
No.
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1:09:53
No.
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1:09:53
Councilor Burgos?
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1:09:55
Yes.
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1:09:55
Councilor Carney?
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1:09:56
No.
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1:09:57
No.
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1:09:57
Councilor Chilcott?
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1:09:58
Yes.
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1:09:58
Yes.
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1:09:59
Councilor Gomes?
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1:10:00
No.
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1:10:00
Councilor Oliver?
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1:10:02
Yes.
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1:10:02
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:10:03
Yes.
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1:10:04
Yes.
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1:10:04
Councilor Pereira?
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1:10:05
No.
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1:10:06
No.
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1:10:06
Councilor Roy?
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1:10:07
No.
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1:10:08
No.
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1:10:08
Item fails 4 to 6.
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1:10:10
Number 62 is before us.
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Mr. President, item 62 is a proposed cut to the mayor's office in the 200 account in the amount of $2,329, proposed by Councilor Oliver.
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Councilor Abreu?
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1:10:22
No.
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1:10:22
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:10:23
No.
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1:10:23
No.
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1:10:24
Councilor Virgo?
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1:10:25
Yes.
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1:10:25
Councilor Carney?
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1:10:26
No.
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1:10:27
No.
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1:10:27
Councilor Chauquette?
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1:10:28
Yes.
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1:10:29
Yes.
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1:10:29
Councilor Gomes?
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1:10:30
No.
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1:10:30
No.
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1:10:31
Councilor Lopes?
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1:10:32
Councilor Oliver?
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1:10:32
Yes.
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1:10:33
Yes.
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1:10:34
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:10:34
Yes.
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1:10:35
Yes.
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1:10:35
Councilor Ferrara?
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1:10:36
Yes.
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1:10:37
Yes.
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Councilor Roy.
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1:10:38
No.
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1:10:39
No.
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Item fails 5 to 6.
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5 to 5.
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5 to 5.
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Excuse me, I'm sorry.
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It's okay.
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1:10:46
All right, number 63 is before us, Mr. President.
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Item 63 is proposed cut to the mayor's office in the 700 account in the amount of $38,267, proposed by Councilors Pereira and Burgo.
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Councilor Abrams, on the question, the chair would just like to make a comment.
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We have been tonight, uh, eliminating travel and budget and subscription lines from our account, from a person— other departments in the city's account.
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The mayor does have some need to travel, so I have proposed elimination of all dues like I did for a lot of other departments and half the travel.
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That still allows the mayor to travel as needed when representing this city on official business.
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Business, but reduces it in a budget crunch.
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Because when, as a corporation or an enterprise does, when there's fiscal problems, it's reduced on the stuff we don't need.
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Dues and subscriptions and travel are sometimes secondary.
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Thank you.
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Chair recognizes Councilor Stokely.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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It's my understanding that the mayor is able to fund his travel account using his political funds.
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Necessary.
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So I wouldn't worry too much about that, in my opinion.
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Thank you.
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Okay, thank you, Councillor.
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Anyone else?
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Okay, I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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Councillor Abreu?
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Yes.
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1:12:10
Councillor Baptiste?
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1:12:13
Yes.
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1:12:13
Yes.
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1:12:14
Councillor Burgos?
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1:12:14
Yes.
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1:12:15
Yes.
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1:12:15
Councillor Carney?
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1:12:16
No.
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1:12:17
No.
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1:12:17
Councillor Chilcott?
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1:12:18
Yes.
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1:12:19
Yes.
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1:12:19
Councillor Gomes?
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1:12:23
Yes.
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1:12:23
Councilor Lopes?
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1:12:25
Yes.
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1:12:25
Councilor Oliver?
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1:12:26
Yes.
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1:12:27
Yes.
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1:12:27
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:12:28
Yes.
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1:12:29
Yes.
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1:12:29
Councilor Pereira?
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1:12:30
Yes.
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1:12:30
Yes.
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1:12:31
Councilor Roy?
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1:12:32
No.
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1:12:32
No.
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1:12:33
Passes 9 to 2.
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Item passes 9 to 2.
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1:12:37
That brings us to number 68.
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Mr. President, item 68 is a cut to the planning department in the 200 account in the amount of $52,000.
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$442, sponsored by Councilors Abreu and Choquette.
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1:12:51
Councilor Abreu?
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1:12:53
Yes.
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1:12:53
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:12:54
No.
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1:12:55
No.
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1:12:55
Councilor Burgow?
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1:12:56
No.
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1:12:57
No.
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1:12:57
Councilor Carney?
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1:12:58
No.
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1:12:58
No.
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1:12:59
Councilor Choquette?
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1:13:00
Yes.
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1:13:00
Yes.
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1:13:01
Councilor Gomes?
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1:13:02
No.
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1:13:02
Councilor Lopes?
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1:13:04
No.
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1:13:04
Councilor Oliver?
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1:13:05
Yes.
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1:13:06
Yes.
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1:13:06
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:13:07
Yes.
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1:13:08
Yes.
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1:13:08
Councilor Pereira?
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1:13:09
No.
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1:13:10
No.
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1:13:10
Councilor Roy?
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1:13:11
No.
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1:13:11
No.
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1:13:12
Fails 4 to 7.
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1:13:13
Item fails 4 to 7.
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1:13:14
That brings us to number 69.
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Mr. President, item 69 is cut for Planning Department, a $700 accounting amount of $1,200, sponsored by Councilor Abreu.
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Councilor Abreu?
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1:13:25
Yes.
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1:13:25
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:13:26
Yes.
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1:13:27
Yes.
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1:13:27
Councilor Burgo?
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1:13:28
Yes.
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1:13:29
Yes.
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1:13:29
Councilor Carney?
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1:13:30
Yes.
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1:13:30
Yes.
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1:13:30
Councilor Choquette?
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1:13:32
Yes.
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1:13:32
Yes.
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1:13:32
Councilor Gomes?
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1:13:34
No.
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1:13:34
Councilor Lopes?
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1:13:36
No.
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1:13:36
Councilor Oliver?
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1:13:37
Yes.
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1:13:38
Yes.
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1:13:38
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:13:39
Yes.
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1:13:39
Yes.
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1:13:40
Councilor Pereira?
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1:13:41
Yes.
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1:13:41
Yes.
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1:13:42
Councilor Roy?
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1:13:43
No.
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1:13:43
No.
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1:13:44
Passes 8 to 3.
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Item passes 8 to 3.
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That brings us to number 70.
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Mr. President, item 70 is cut to the police department in the 100 account in the amount of $383,975, sponsored by Councilor Burgo.
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Councilor Abreu?
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1:14:01
Oh, on the question, the chair recognizes Councilor It's okay.
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Thank you.
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1:14:07
So again, just as I mentioned in my remarks, another position where the mayor wanted to usurp the city council, put someone as a chief of staff when they really wanted to title them a deputy director.
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I won't go too much in that.
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1:14:21
I already spoke about that.
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1:14:23
But also included in here is an assistant deputy chief.
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1:14:26
Again, not saying that we don't need a secondary assistant deputy chief.
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1:14:30
Again, to clarify, we already have an assistant deputy chief who does an amazing job.
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1:14:36
We've gone without an assistant deputy chief for quite some time.
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I think right now we can hold off for this fiscal year until next year to see where we're at.
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This body just recently voted on trying to eliminate an assistant director in a different department.
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I would hope that in this time where we have a vacancy, this is a position we can hold off on.
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1:14:55
The other, uh, add-in that I add in here was an admin manager.
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1:14:59
The police department was doing fine with just one admin manager.
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This year they added a secondary admin manager, which is why I included that in there.
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1:15:06
So I just wanted to give some explanation on why these 3 particular positions, and I hope that I'll have the support.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Councilor.
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1:15:16
Anyone else?
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1:15:17
I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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1:15:20
Councilor Abram.
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1:15:22
No.
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1:15:22
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:15:24
No.
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1:15:24
Councilor Burgos?
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1:15:25
Yes.
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1:15:26
Councilor Carney?
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1:15:26
No.
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1:15:27
No.
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1:15:27
Councilor Choquette?
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1:15:28
No.
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1:15:29
No.
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1:15:30
Councilor Gomes?
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1:15:31
No.
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1:15:32
Councilor Lopes?
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1:15:33
No.
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1:15:33
Councilor Oliver?
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1:15:34
Yes.
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1:15:35
Yes.
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1:15:35
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:15:36
Yes.
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1:15:37
Yes.
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1:15:37
Councilor Pereira?
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1:15:38
Yes.
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1:15:39
Yes.
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1:15:39
Councilor Roy?
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1:15:40
No.
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1:15:41
No.
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1:15:42
Fails 4 to 7.
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1:15:43
Item fails 4 to 7.
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1:15:44
That brings us to number 71.
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Mr. President, item 71 is to cut the police department in the 100 account in the amount of $368,207, proposed by Councilor Oliver.
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Councilor Abram?
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1:15:56
No.
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1:15:57
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:15:58
No.
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1:15:59
No.
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1:15:59
Councilor Burgow?
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1:16:00
Yes.
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1:16:01
Yes.
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1:16:02
Councilor Carney?
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1:16:02
No.
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1:16:03
No.
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1:16:03
Councilor Choquette?
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1:16:04
No.
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1:16:05
No.
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1:16:05
Councilor Gomes?
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1:16:07
No.
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1:16:07
Councilor Lopes?
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1:16:08
No.
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1:16:09
No.
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1:16:09
Councilor Oliver?
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1:16:11
Yes.
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1:16:11
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:16:12
Yes.
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1:16:12
Yes.
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1:16:13
Councilor Pereira?
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1:16:13
Yes.
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1:16:14
Yes.
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1:16:14
Councilor Roy?
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1:16:15
No.
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1:16:16
No.
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1:16:16
Fails 4 to 7.
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1:16:17
Item fails 4 to 7.
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1:16:19
That brings us to number 72.
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1:16:20
Mr. President, item 72 is cut to the police department in the 100 account in the amount of $306,264, offered by Councilor Pereira.
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Question from the chair.
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You know, uh, looking at this budget, and when the chief was here, I questioned, A, the, the what I see as a usurpation of this body's legislative authority in creating that position of the Chief of Staff.
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We should have had a direct role in creating that position.
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1:16:50
The position might have merit, but it deserved debate.
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1:16:55
It deserved public debate so that the taxpayers who sent us here can, can know that we were reviewing it and it just wasn't being created out of thin air.
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1:17:04
So I have no appetite to fund that position.
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1:17:07
And one, the addition of an assistant deputy chief— this department has operated with a chief and a deputy chief, as my colleague from Clara Street has said, for decades.
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They created 2 assistant deputy chiefs to create 4 upper management.
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1:17:22
We know there's some issues going on right now and what they're trying to do with the captain's position in that department.
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So we have a chief, we have a deputy chief filled, and we have an assistant deputy chief filled.
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1:17:34
There is an available vacant 4th deputy— assistant deputy chief.
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1:17:38
Eliminate that.
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1:17:39
No one loses their job.
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1:17:40
And eliminate this illegal chief of staff.
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1:17:42
Thank you.
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1:17:45
Councilor Abrum?
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1:17:46
No.
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1:17:48
No.
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1:17:48
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:17:50
No.
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1:17:50
Councilor Burgos?
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1:17:51
Yes.
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1:17:52
Yes.
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1:17:52
Councilor Carney?
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1:17:53
Yes.
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1:17:53
Yes.
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1:17:54
Councilor Choquette?
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1:17:56
No.
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1:17:56
No.
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1:17:56
Councilor Gomes.
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1:17:58
Sorry, no.
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1:17:59
No.
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1:18:00
Councilor Lopes.
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1:18:01
No.
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1:18:01
No.
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1:18:01
Councilor Oliver.
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1:18:03
Yes.
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1:18:03
Yes.
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1:18:04
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:18:04
Yes.
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1:18:05
Yes.
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1:18:05
Councilor Pereira.
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1:18:06
Absolutely.
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1:18:07
Yes.
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1:18:07
Councilor Roy.
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1:18:08
No.
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1:18:09
No.
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1:18:09
Fails 5 to 6, Mr. President.
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1:18:12
Item fails 5 to 6.
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1:18:15
Number 73.
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1:18:16
Mr. President, item 73 is a cut to the police department in the 100 account in the amount of $288,200.
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$207.
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1:18:23
Sponsored by Councilor Oliver.
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1:18:25
Councilor Abril?
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1:18:27
No.
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1:18:27
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:18:29
No.
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1:18:29
Councilor Burgos?
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1:18:30
Yes.
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1:18:30
Yes.
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1:18:31
Councilor Carney?
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1:18:32
Yes.
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1:18:32
Yes.
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1:18:33
Councilor Chauquet?
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1:18:34
No.
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1:18:35
No.
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1:18:35
Councilor Gomes?
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1:18:37
No.
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1:18:37
Councilor Lopez?
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1:18:38
Yes.
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1:18:38
Yes.
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1:18:39
Councilor Oliver?
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1:18:40
Yes.
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1:18:41
Yes.
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1:18:41
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:18:42
Yes.
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1:18:43
Yes.
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1:18:43
Councilor Pereira?
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1:18:44
Yes.
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1:18:45
Yes.
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1:18:45
Councilor Roy?
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1:18:46
No.
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1:18:47
No, passes 6 to 5.
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1:18:49
Item passes 6 to 5.
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1:18:51
That will take us to number 84.
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1:19:01
Mr. President, item 84 is a cut to the police department in the 200 account in the amount of $14,740, sponsored by Councilor Pemberton.
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Councilor Raybould?
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1:19:11
No.
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1:19:11
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:19:12
No, Councilor Burgos.
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1:19:14
No.
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1:19:14
No, Councilor Carney.
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1:19:15
No.
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1:19:16
No, Councilor Chilcutt.
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1:19:17
No.
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1:19:18
No, Councilor Gomes.
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1:19:19
No.
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1:19:19
No, Councilor Lopes.
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1:19:21
No.
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1:19:21
No, Councilor Oliver.
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1:19:22
No.
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1:19:23
No, Councilor Pemberton.
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1:19:25
No.
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1:19:26
No, Councilor Pereira.
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1:19:27
Yes.
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1:19:28
Yes, Councilor Roy.
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1:19:29
No.
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1:19:30
No, fails 1 to 10, Mr. President.
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1:19:32
Item fails 1 to 10.
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1:19:34
Number 85.
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1:19:35
Mr. President.
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1:19:36
Mr. President.
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1:19:36
Yep.
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1:19:37
I'd like to withdraw Item number 85.
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1:19:40
Number 85 has been withdrawn.
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1:19:42
That brings us to number 86.
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1:19:45
Mr. President, item 86 is a cut to the police department in the 700 account in the amount of $20,000, offered by Councilor Pemberton.
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1:19:52
Councilor Abram?
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1:19:54
No.
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1:19:54
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:19:56
No.
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1:19:56
Councilor Burgos?
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1:19:57
No.
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1:19:58
No.
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1:19:58
Councilor Carney?
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1:19:59
No.
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1:20:00
No.
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1:20:00
Councilor Chouquette?
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1:20:01
No.
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1:20:01
No.
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1:20:02
Councilor Gomes?
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1:20:03
No.
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1:20:04
Councilor Lopes?
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1:20:05
No.
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1:20:06
No.
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1:20:06
Councilor Oliver?
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1:20:07
Yes.
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1:20:08
Yes.
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1:20:08
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:20:09
Yes.
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1:20:09
Yes.
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1:20:10
Councilor Pereira?
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1:20:11
Yes.
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1:20:11
Yes.
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1:20:12
Councilor Roy?
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1:20:13
No.
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1:20:13
No.
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1:20:13
Fails 3 to 8, Mr. President.
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1:20:15
Item fails 3 to 8.
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1:20:16
That brings us to number 87.
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1:20:23
Mr. President, item 87 is a cut to the Public Infrastructure Department, the 100 account, the amount of $10,000, sponsored by Councilors Abreu and Pemberton.
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1:20:31
Councilor Abram.
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1:20:32
Yes.
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1:20:33
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:20:34
No.
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1:20:35
Councilor Burgos.
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1:20:35
No.
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1:20:36
No.
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1:20:36
Councilor Carney.
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1:20:37
No.
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1:20:38
No.
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1:20:38
Councilor Chouquette.
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1:20:40
Yes.
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1:20:41
Yes.
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1:20:41
Councilor Gomes.
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1:20:42
No.
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1:20:43
No.
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1:20:43
Councilor Lopes.
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1:20:44
No.
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1:20:45
No.
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1:20:45
Councilor Oliver.
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1:20:46
Yes.
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1:20:46
Yes.
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1:20:47
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:20:48
Yes.
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1:20:49
Yes.
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1:20:49
Councilor Pereira.
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1:20:50
Yes.
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1:20:50
Yes.
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1:20:51
Councilor Roy.
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1:20:52
No.
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1:20:52
No.
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1:20:53
Fails 5 to 6.
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1:20:54
Item fails 5 to 6.
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1:20:55
That brings us to 88.
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1:20:57
Mr. President, item 88 is a cut to the Public Infrastructure Department in the full— I'm sorry, in the 200 account in the amount of $21,525.
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1:21:07
Councilor Abram?
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1:21:08
Yes.
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1:21:09
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:21:10
No.
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1:21:11
Councilor Burgos?
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1:21:12
Yes.
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1:21:13
Yes.
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1:21:13
Councilor Carney?
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1:21:16
Yes.
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1:21:17
Yes.
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1:21:17
Councilor Choquette?
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1:21:18
Yes.
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1:21:18
Yes.
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1:21:19
Councilor Gomes?
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1:21:20
No.
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1:21:21
Councilor Lopes?
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1:21:22
No.
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1:21:22
No.
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1:21:22
Councilor Oliver?
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1:21:24
Yes.
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1:21:24
Yes.
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1:21:25
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:21:26
Yes.
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1:21:26
Yes.
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1:21:27
Councilor Pereira?
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1:21:27
Yes.
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1:21:28
Yes.
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1:21:28
Councilor Roy?
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1:21:30
No.
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1:21:30
No.
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1:21:31
Passes 7 to 4.
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1:21:32
Item passes 7 to 4.
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1:21:33
That takes us to number 89.
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1:21:36
Mr. President, item 89 is cut to the Public Infrastructure Department in the 400 account in the amount of $127,000, offered by Councilor Abreu.
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1:21:45
Councilor Abreu?
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1:21:46
Yes.
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1:21:47
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:21:48
No.
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1:21:49
Councilor Burgum?
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1:21:49
No.
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1:21:50
No.
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1:21:51
Councilor Carney?
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1:21:52
No.
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1:21:52
No.
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1:21:52
Councilor Chauquette?
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1:21:54
No.
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1:21:55
No.
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1:21:55
Councilor Gomes?
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1:21:56
No.
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1:21:56
No.
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1:21:57
Councilor Lopez?
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1:21:58
No.
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1:21:58
No.
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1:21:58
Councilor Oliver?
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1:21:59
Yes.
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1:22:00
Yes.
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1:22:00
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:22:01
Yes.
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1:22:02
Yes.
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1:22:02
Councilor Pereira?
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1:22:03
No.
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1:22:04
No.
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1:22:05
Councilor Roy?
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1:22:06
No.
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1:22:06
No.
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1:22:07
Fails 3 to 8.
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1:22:09
Item fails 3 to 8, number 90.
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1:22:13
Mr. President, item 90 is a Cut to the Public Infrastructure Department in the amount of $400— I'm sorry, in the 400 account, the amount of $40,000, sponsored by Councillor Pereira.
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1:22:22
Just really quick on this cut, colleagues, this is a large line item with a lot of variables given the price of gas and vehicles and such, and with the fluctuation as markets hopefully stabilize, this is something that we can monitor and always adjust moving forward.
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We get one chance to reduce it.
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1:22:41
I think we play a little more conservative, reduce it by the $40,000, and monitor it and look at it in a few months.
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1:22:47
Thank you.
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1:22:49
Councilor Abreu?
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1:22:50
Yes.
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1:22:51
Yes.
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1:22:51
Councilor Burgos?
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1:22:53
Yes.
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1:22:54
Yes.
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1:22:54
Councilor Carney?
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1:22:55
Yes.
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1:22:56
Yes.
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1:22:56
Councilor Choquette?
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1:22:57
Yes.
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1:22:58
Yes.
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1:22:58
Councilor Gomes?
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1:23:00
Yes.
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1:23:00
Yes.
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1:23:01
Councilor Lopes?
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1:23:02
No.
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1:23:03
No.
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1:23:03
Councilor Oliver?
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1:23:04
Yes.
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1:23:04
Yes.
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1:23:05
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:23:06
Yes.
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1:23:06
Yes.
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1:23:07
Councilor Pereira?
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1:23:07
Yes.
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1:23:08
Yes.
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1:23:08
Councilor Roy?
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1:23:09
Yes.
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1:23:10
Yes.
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1:23:12
Passes 9 to 1.
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1:23:14
Item passes 9 to 1.
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1:23:17
Number 91 is before us, Mr. President.
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1:23:20
Item 91 is a cut to the Public Infrastructure Department in the 700 account in the amount of $7,085, sponsored by Councilor Abreu.
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1:23:28
Councilor Abreu?
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1:23:29
Yes.
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1:23:30
Yes.
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1:23:31
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:23:32
Councilor Bergo?
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1:23:33
No.
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1:23:34
Councilor Carney?
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1:23:35
No.
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1:23:35
No.
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1:23:36
Councilor Chauquette?
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1:23:37
No.
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1:23:37
No.
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1:23:38
Councilor Gomes?
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1:23:39
No.
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1:23:39
No.
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1:23:40
Councilor Lopes?
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1:23:40
No.
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1:23:41
No.
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1:23:41
Councilor Oliver?
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1:23:42
Yes.
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1:23:43
Yes.
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1:23:43
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:23:44
Yes.
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1:23:45
Yes.
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1:23:45
Councilor Pereira?
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1:23:46
No.
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1:23:47
No.
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1:23:47
Councilor Roy?
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1:23:48
No.
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1:23:48
No.
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1:23:49
Fails 3 to 7.
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1:23:50
Item fails 3 to 7.
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1:23:52
Number 92.
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1:23:53
Mr. President, item 92 is a cut to the Public Infrastructure Department in the 700 account.
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1:23:58
In the amount of $4,500, sponsored by Councilor Choquette.
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1:24:02
Councilor Raybould?
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1:24:03
Yes.
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1:24:04
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:24:05
Councilor Burgos?
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1:24:07
Yes.
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1:24:07
Councilor Carney?
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1:24:09
No.
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1:24:10
Councilor Choquette?
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1:24:11
Yes.
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1:24:12
Councilor Gomes?
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1:24:14
No.
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1:24:14
Councilor Lopez?
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1:24:15
No.
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1:24:16
Councilor Oliver?
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1:24:17
Yes.
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1:24:17
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:24:19
Yes.
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1:24:19
Councilor Pereira?
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1:24:20
Yes.
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1:24:21
Councilor Roy?
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1:24:22
Yes.
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1:24:24
Passes 7 to 3, Mr. President.
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1:24:25
Item passes 7 to 3.
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1:24:28
Colleagues, we're at the halfway point, so I'm going to ask the finance team to give us a tally of where we're at so far on totals, and we'll take a 5-minute recess.
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1:24:37
Please don't take more than 10 minutes.
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1:29:06
All right, colleagues, we're going to bring it back.
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1:29:10
All right, it is 8:37 PM.
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1:29:15
We'll resume budget cut session.
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1:29:18
So the total so far from cuts from the general fund total $957,234.
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1:29:27
$957,234.
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1:29:32
All right, I will ask the clerk to start with number 93.
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1:29:37
Mr. President, item 93 is a cut to the purchasing office in the amount— in the 200 account— amount of $3,200 offered by Councilors Lopes and Abreu.
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1:29:45
Councilor Abreu?
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1:29:46
Yes.
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1:29:47
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:29:48
No.
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1:29:48
Councilor Bruggo?
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1:29:52
No.
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1:29:52
No.
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1:29:53
Councilor Carney?
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1:29:54
No.
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1:29:54
No.
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1:29:55
Councilor Choquette?
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1:29:56
No.
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1:29:57
No.
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1:29:57
Councilor Gomes.
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1:29:58
No.
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1:29:58
Councilor Lopes.
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1:30:00
Yes.
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1:30:00
Yes.
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1:30:01
Councilor Oliver.
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1:30:02
Yes.
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1:30:03
Yes.
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1:30:03
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:30:04
Yes.
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1:30:05
Councilor Pereira.
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1:30:05
No.
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1:30:06
No.
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1:30:06
Councilor Roy.
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1:30:08
No.
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1:30:08
No.
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1:30:09
Fails 4 to 7.
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1:30:10
Item fails 4 to 7.
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1:30:13
Number 94 is before us.
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1:30:15
Mr. President, number 94 is a cut to the purchasing office in the 200 account in the amount of $3,000, sponsored by Councilors Lopes and Abram.
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1:30:22
Councilor Abram.
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1:30:23
Yes.
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1:30:24
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:30:25
No.
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1:30:25
Councilor Bruggo.
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1:30:27
No.
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1:30:27
No.
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1:30:27
Councilor Carney.
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1:30:28
No.
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1:30:29
No.
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1:30:29
Councilor Chouquette.
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1:30:31
No.
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1:30:32
No.
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1:30:32
Councilor Gomes.
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1:30:33
No.
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1:30:33
Councilor Lopes.
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1:30:34
Yes.
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1:30:35
Yes.
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1:30:35
Councilor Oliver.
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1:30:36
Yes.
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1:30:36
Yes.
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1:30:37
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:30:37
Yes.
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1:30:38
Yes.
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1:30:38
Councilor Pereira.
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1:30:39
No.
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1:30:40
No.
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1:30:40
Councilor Roy.
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1:30:41
No.
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1:30:42
No.
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1:30:42
Fails 4 to 7.
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1:30:43
Item fails 4 to 7.
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1:30:46
Number 93.
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1:30:47
Present item 95 is cut to the purchasing office in the amount— the 400 account— in the amount of $1,000, offered by Councilors Lopes and Abreu.
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1:30:55
Councilor Abreu?
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1:30:57
Yes.
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1:30:57
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:30:58
No.
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1:30:58
Councilor Burgow?
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1:31:00
Yes.
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1:31:01
Yes.
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1:31:01
Councilor Carney?
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1:31:02
No.
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1:31:03
No.
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1:31:03
Councilor Choquette?
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1:31:04
Yes.
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1:31:05
Yes.
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1:31:05
Councilor Gomes?
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1:31:06
No.
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1:31:06
Councilor Lopes?
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1:31:07
Yes.
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1:31:08
Yes.
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1:31:08
Councilor Oliver?
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1:31:09
Yes.
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1:31:10
Yes.
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1:31:10
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:31:11
Yes.
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1:31:11
Yes.
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1:31:12
Councilor Pereira?
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1:31:13
No.
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1:31:13
No.
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1:31:14
Councilor Roy.
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1:31:15
No.
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1:31:15
No.
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1:31:16
Passes 6 to 5.
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1:31:17
Item passes 6 to 5.
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1:31:20
Colleagues, number 96 has been withdrawn.
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1:31:22
That brings us to number 97.
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1:31:25
Mr. President, item 97 is a cut to the Resilience and Environmental Stewardship Department in the 200 account in the amount of $13,000, sponsored by Councilors Lopes and Abreu.
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1:31:34
Councilor Abreu.
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1:31:36
Yes.
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1:31:36
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:31:37
Yes.
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1:31:38
Yes.
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1:31:38
Councilor Brego?
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1:31:39
Yes.
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1:31:40
Yes.
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1:31:40
Councilor Carney?
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1:31:41
No.
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1:31:41
No.
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1:31:42
Councilor Choquette?
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1:31:43
Yes.
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1:31:43
Yes.
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1:31:44
Councilor Gomes?
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1:31:45
Yes.
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1:31:45
Yes.
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1:31:46
Councilor Lopes?
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1:31:47
Yes.
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1:31:47
Yes.
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1:31:48
Councilor Oliver?
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1:31:48
Yes.
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1:31:49
Yes.
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1:31:49
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:31:50
Yes.
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1:31:51
Yes.
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1:31:51
Councilor Pereira?
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1:31:52
No.
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1:31:53
No.
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1:31:53
Councilor Roy?
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1:31:54
Yes.
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1:31:55
Yes.
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1:31:55
Passes 9 to 2, Mr. President.
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1:31:57
Item passes 9 to 2.
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1:31:59
That takes us to number 99.
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1:32:03
Mr. President, number 99 is cut to the Resilience and Environmental Stewardship Department in the 700 account in the amount of $2,050, sponsored by Councillors Lope, Choquette, Abreu, Pemberton, and Carney.
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1:32:14
Councillor Abreu?
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1:32:15
Yes.
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1:32:15
Councillor Baptiste?
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1:32:16
Yes.
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1:32:17
Yes.
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1:32:17
Councillor Burgos?
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1:32:18
Yes.
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1:32:19
Yes.
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1:32:19
Councillor Carney?
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1:32:20
Yes.
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1:32:21
Yes.
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1:32:21
Councillor Choquette?
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1:32:22
Yes.
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1:32:23
Yes.
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1:32:23
Councillor Gomes?
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1:32:24
Yes.
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1:32:25
Yes.
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1:32:25
Councillor Lopes?
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1:32:26
Yes.
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1:32:27
Yes.
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1:32:27
Councillor Oliver?
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1:32:28
Yes.
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1:32:31
Yes.
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1:32:31
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:32:32
Yes.
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1:32:32
Yes.
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1:32:33
Councilor Pereira?
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1:32:34
Yes.
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1:32:34
Yes.
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1:32:34
Councilor Roy?
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1:32:38
No.
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1:32:38
No.
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1:32:38
No.
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1:32:39
Passes 10 to 1.
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1:32:40
Item passes 10 to 1.
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1:32:41
Number 100.
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1:32:44
Mr. President, item 100 is the cut to the city solicitor's office in the 200 account in the amount of $150,000, sponsored by Councilors Pereira and Burgo.
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1:32:53
On the question from the chair, I would just like to reiterate Very similar to my comments about DPI, this department's 200 account has estimates for outside legal counsel.
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1:33:08
Now, we have heard from the city solicitor about the strides that assistant— first city solicitor Ryan Paveo has been making in assisting the city with union negotiations.
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1:33:22
Why are we still funding the firm— I forget the name off the top of my head— that deals with that to the tune of a quarter of a million dollars if our in-house counsel is handling the majority of that?
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1:33:34
We should reduce this budget by $150,000, allowing them still $100,000 with VHR or something like that, I forget the name, and allowing them to still use that.
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1:33:47
At the end of the day, they can still come to us and say, councilor, we're running out of money to look at our legal situation, and we can make a determination if it is necessary.
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We get one shot to take it away.
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1:33:57
We should reduce this over a $500,000 budget, by the way, in outside legal counsel, most of which is meritable, some of which is an exaggeration.
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1:34:08
So let's reduce it.
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1:34:09
We can add it a little back later if needed.
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1:34:11
Thank you.
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1:34:14
Councilor Abram.
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1:34:17
No.
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1:34:17
No.
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1:34:18
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:34:19
No.
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1:34:19
No.
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1:34:20
Councilor Burgow.
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1:34:21
Yes.
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1:34:21
Yes.
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1:34:22
Councilor Carney.
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1:34:23
No.
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1:34:23
No.
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1:34:24
Councilor Chauquet.
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1:34:25
No.
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1:34:25
No.
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1:34:26
Councilor Gomes.
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1:34:31
Yes.
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1:34:32
Yes.
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1:34:33
Councilor Lopes.
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1:34:34
No.
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1:34:34
No.
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1:34:35
Councilor Oliver.
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1:34:36
No.
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1:34:37
No.
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1:34:37
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:34:38
Yes.
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1:34:39
Yes.
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1:34:39
Councilor Pereira.
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1:34:40
Yes.
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1:34:40
Yes.
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1:34:41
Councilor Roy?
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1:34:43
No.
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1:34:43
No.
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1:34:43
Fails 4 to 7.
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1:34:45
Item fails 4 to 7.
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1:34:46
That brings us to number 101.
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1:34:52
Mr. President, item 101 is a cut to the solicitor's office in the 200 account in the amount of $125,000, sponsored by Councilors Pereira and Burgo.
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Councilor Abril?
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1:35:03
No.
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1:35:03
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:35:04
No.
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1:35:05
Councilor Burgo?
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1:35:06
Yes.
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1:35:07
Yes.
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1:35:07
Carnie?
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1:35:08
No.
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1:35:09
No.
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1:35:09
Councilor Chauquette?
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1:35:10
No.
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1:35:11
No.
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1:35:11
Councilor Gomes?
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1:35:12
No.
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1:35:13
Councilor Lopes?
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1:35:14
No.
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1:35:14
No.
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1:35:15
Councilor Oliver?
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Yeah, uh, no.
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1:35:19
No.
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1:35:19
Councilor Pemberton?
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Yes.
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1:35:21
Yes.
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1:35:22
Councilor Pereira?
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1:35:23
Yes.
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1:35:24
Yes.
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1:35:24
Councilor Roy?
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1:35:26
No.
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1:35:26
No.
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1:35:26
Fails 3 to 8.
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1:35:28
Item fails 3 to 8.
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1:35:30
Number 102 is before us, and I just would like to reiterate again, we have an opportunity to reduce.
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1:35:36
We can always add back a budget of over half a million dollars for outside legal counsel.
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1:35:41
Chair recognizes Councilor Bergo.
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1:35:43
Thank you for mentioning that.
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1:35:44
I was just going to reiterate that point, and I guess we lost someone in the last vote, um, at 150 to 125.
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1:35:51
Um, again, in a situation like this, I guess the council doesn't want to have the oversight to determine when we add money to the tax levy.
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1:36:00
This is one of those situations.
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1:36:02
I'm concerned that we, we don't want to have this option when it comes to fiscal management.
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If and when, just as Mr. President, you just mentioned, the solicitor can prove to us, oh yes, we're running out of money, we need these extra funds, and here's why, we can add the money back.
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So don't be squeamish in this moment, colleagues, especially when we hear people in this very chamber crying out all the time about where we need to make these cuts to save different priorities in this city.
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1:36:34
This is the moment, in moments like this, where we can make these cuts and restore them if this administration can come back and prove that.
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1:36:41
Please vote yes.
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1:36:44
Thank you, Councilor.
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1:36:45
Anyone else?
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I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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1:36:48
Number 102, Councilor Abril.
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1:36:51
Yes.
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1:36:51
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:36:53
Yes, Councilor Burgos.
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1:36:55
Yes.
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1:36:55
Yes, Councilor Carney.
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1:36:56
Yes.
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Yes, Councilor Chauquette.
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1:36:59
Yes.
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1:37:00
Yes, Councilor Gomes.
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Yes, Councilor Lopes.
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1:37:08
No.
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1:37:09
No, Councilor Oliver.
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Yes.
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Yes, Councilor Pemberton.
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1:37:13
Yes.
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Yes, Councilor Pereira.
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1:37:15
Yes.
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1:37:15
Yes, Councilor Roy.
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1:37:17
No.
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1:37:18
No.
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1:37:18
Passes 9 to 2, Mr. President.
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1:37:20
Item passes.
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1:37:21
Item passes 9 to 2.
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1:37:23
That brings us to number 106.
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1:37:27
Mr. President, item 106 is a cut to the solicitor's office in the 700 account in the amount of $1,800, proposed by Councilors Choquette, Abru, Pemberton, and Burgo.
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Councilor Abru?
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1:37:38
Yes.
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1:37:39
Councilor Baptiste?
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1:37:40
No.
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1:37:40
Councilor Burgo?
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1:37:42
Yes.
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1:37:42
Councilor Carney?
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1:37:43
No.
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1:37:44
No.
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1:37:44
Councilor Chouquette?
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1:37:45
Yes.
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1:37:46
Yes.
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1:37:46
Councilor Gomes?
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1:37:48
No.
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1:37:49
No.
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1:37:49
Councilor Lopes?
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1:37:50
No.
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1:37:51
No.
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1:37:51
Councilor Oliver?
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1:37:53
Yes.
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1:37:53
Yes.
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1:37:54
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:37:55
Yes.
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1:37:55
Yes.
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1:37:55
Councilor Pereira?
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1:37:56
Yes.
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1:37:57
Yes.
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1:37:57
Councilor Roy?
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1:37:58
No.
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1:37:59
No.
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Passes 6 to 5.
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1:38:00
Item passes 6 to 5.
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1:38:05
Number 107 is before us.
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1:38:06
Mr. President, item 107 is a cut to the Tourism and Marketing Office in the 100 account in the amount of $177,226 from Councillors Oliver, Chauquet, and Pemberton.
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1:38:17
On the question, Chair recognizes Councillor Oliver.
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1:38:22
Oh, is he first?
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1:38:23
Yes.
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1:38:23
Oh, sorry, because you guys just go right into the voting and I'm like, you never— okay.
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1:38:27
Oh, okay.
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Thank you.
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1:38:30
Uh, this, this reduction is not about whether tourism has value or whether the taxpayers can afford every program the city would like to fund this year.
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1:38:39
But the proposal also is not a reflection of the hard work of everyone that's involved in promoting the city.
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1:38:45
New Bedford, as we know, has a rich history and a vibrant culture, and we obviously always would like to promote that.
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1:38:52
But this is something that's not unheard of.
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1:38:55
Our neighboring town of Fairhaven was proposing a similar measure Where in times of restraint— I mean, times in fiscal hardship, cities and towns are faced with making difficult decisions.
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1:39:11
I believe that the Economic Development Council that we have could do a little bit more to promote our tourism and working with the state's office and MassDOT to make sure that the city of New Bedford is prominently known across across the state.
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1:39:28
At this point, I just don't see the value in which they speak of, because some of the numbers that they speak of are based on numbers that everybody uses that says that they're generating revenue and generating people to come into the city of New Bedford.
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1:39:44
Most of those same metrics are due in part to— half of that, I believe, is— well, a good percentage of that is from things like the Feast and the Veterans Museums and the Whaling Museum.
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1:40:06
Not so much the work of the Tourism and Marketing Department, although I do see its merit.
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1:40:11
I just don't think at this time the city of New Bedford can afford to fund that.
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1:40:16
Thank you.
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1:40:17
Thank you, Councilor.
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1:40:17
Councilor Berg.
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1:40:22
Thank you.
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1:40:23
I just wanted to note, for those who might not realize, that 107, 108, 109, and 110— obviously we're speaking on 107— but they are all 100% of the account.
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1:40:34
So in this case, if you are to vote yes on this particular cut that we're speaking on, 107, a reduction of $177,226 to the 100 account, which is salaries and wages.
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1:40:46
It is effectively eliminating the A-team, is what I refer to them.
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1:40:51
I think everyone in City Hall, not because their first names start with the letter A, but because of the caliber of work that they bring to our city.
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1:40:59
And I think you don't need to just listen to them and the numbers and the annual report.
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1:41:04
I don't know if anyone actually reads the annual report of what they actually do for our city.
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1:41:09
If you listen to the the, the events and the individuals that they collaborate with, both public and private sectors.
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1:41:15
The Tourism and Marketing Department does a lot of work to promote the city of New Bedford and to help collaborate with, uh, those individuals you speak of— the, the, uh, Portuguese Feast, or even recently the Cabo Verdean Heritage Month— helping them get, uh, organized online on our city website to advertise the events that they're they were hosting last year when this council established that as a month.
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The work that they do is often sometimes immeasurable.
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1:41:45
To completely eliminate an entire department without having that discussion goes against the very things that we criticize this administration on.
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1:41:55
I think it's irresponsible.
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1:41:57
I think it's ridiculous.
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1:41:59
And I would hope that this council has the foresight to see that the return on investment that we get for the total combined budget of this department far outweighs what we would save.
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1:42:11
So again, I'm asking my colleagues to pay attention here, not only for 107 but on 108, 109, and 110.
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1:42:18
Any yes vote to this would be a complete elimination of our Tourism and Marketing Department.
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1:42:25
I urge my colleagues to vote no.
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Thank you.
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1:42:28
Thank you.
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1:42:29
Chair recognizes Councillor Pemberton.
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1:42:34
Thank you, Mr. President.
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1:42:36
Um, I just want to say I agree with the, uh, my colleague before, the, uh, from Ward 3.
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1:42:44
Um, you know, I haven't seen too much of it myself.
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1:42:47
I've been doing the, uh, '50s nights for 4 years, and not once I've ever seen them down there helping and promoting.
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1:42:56
Now I've been on the phone and I've called them and asked, but I still got nothing.
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1:43:01
Um, so there's a— that's just one example, uh, that I see that I, I really don't see anything going on.
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1:43:08
And you can ask some of the businesses as well.
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1:43:12
Uh, right now it's summertime, we should be getting a lot of tourism, but you know, the business don't even— they make less money in the summertime than they do in the fall/winter because our people go away, so they're not spending any money in here.
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But so where is the tourism?
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1:43:30
Why aren't we having any money from— so that's just where I stand.
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Thank you.
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1:43:35
Thank you, Councilor.
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1:43:37
Chair recognizes Councilor Gomes.
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1:43:42
Thank you, Mr. President.
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1:43:44
Well, you know, the A-team isn't my favorite A-team in this city.
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1:43:49
And I've been kind of watching it, and I don't quite like how we come to the conclusion of the tourism in this city.
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1:43:55
You know, counting the kids from the school going to the Zaitarian, counting people's credit cards who come from Dartmouth, Westport, Fair Haven, or Cushionett, Mattapoisett to have dinner in our city, you count that as tourism numbers.
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1:44:07
I said to you almost a month ago, I said to this body during the budget hearings, where is the red, white, and blue in this city?
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1:44:16
Where is the tourism?
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1:44:18
Where is the tourism?
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1:44:20
July 4th is fast approaching.
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1:44:21
Yes, if it wasn't for the Cape Verdean Recognition Parade and some of these other organizations that have been named in this day, they've been around forever and a day.
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1:44:31
I don't see how we quite promote them.
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1:44:33
They promote themselves.
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1:44:35
Yes, there can be a helping hand out of the tourism book or whatever.
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1:44:38
But I don't find that the tourism numbers are there.
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1:44:41
And you know what?
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1:44:42
You have to hang around downtown.
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1:44:44
See, I have the opportunity to hang around downtown on a Saturday and Sunday because I have a building that I have to come and check.
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1:44:50
HVAC system, the compressors or whatever.
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1:44:54
And I don't quite see those numbers that we're speaking of.
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1:44:59
They're two nice people, but I don't believe we're doing the job the way it should be to draw tourism to the city.
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1:45:05
And again, no red, white, and blue in this city.
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1:45:08
You only got a week and a half, Mr. Mayor, and your tourism directors.
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1:45:13
I don't see anything.
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1:45:15
And you know the funniest thing?
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Is that we— they act like they're drawing people here, but they're not.
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1:45:31
They're really not.
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1:45:32
And I'm going to agree with one of my colleagues who has spoke.
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1:45:35
You absolutely don't see them.
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1:45:38
You don't see them.
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1:45:39
That script that was given to us during budget hearing, if you listened to last year's, it's a good part of it.
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1:45:44
If you listened to the year before, nice part of it.
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1:45:46
You understand?
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1:45:48
I'm sick of nice parts.
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1:45:50
Nice parts that give us nothing.
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1:45:52
I'm going to vote for this.
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1:45:54
And it's not because I want to get rid of— because I want to do this, but I feel that we're getting nothing out of this.
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1:46:00
We're really getting nothing out of this, and the city deserves better.
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1:46:06
And again, no red, white, and blue.
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1:46:08
This is the same organization that told me when I gave them an idea about stimulating and getting money by banners on the, on the poles out there, I was told by some law or some historical thing we can't do that, only to find those banners up.
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1:46:24
And you know, someday we'll get into that, how, you know, some people have said, including in this building, I like to talk about things but don't want to get it done.
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1:46:33
All I got to do is open my mouth sometime and it gets done.
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1:46:36
And this is one of them examples.
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1:46:38
It got done, but shh, we'll do it on the QT.
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1:46:41
Now we can do it.
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1:46:43
Why couldn't we do it when I asked you that right here in this building, if you could sell those banners along Route 18, in downtown New Bedford?
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1:46:53
Think about it.
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1:46:55
Think about what downtown looks like.
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1:46:57
You want to see some pictures?
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1:46:59
You want to hang around me about 10:30, 11 o'clock at night, maybe even a little later?
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1:47:04
You're all welcome, because I'll take you places downtown that you'll go, what the hell?
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1:47:09
What is going on here?
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1:47:11
It's all part of the tourism.
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1:47:12
It's all part of tourism to keep downtown clean, keep them cobblestones scrubbed up.
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1:47:17
I know I'm stretching it, but I'm putting up— I'm making a point.
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1:47:20
You're part of tourism, you're in charge of that tourism.
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1:47:23
You got some other work that has to be done in this city.
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1:47:26
It can't be just when the Zaiterian's running and you count that as a big night, or Aha is running, or the '50s night.
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1:47:34
It's got to be a big night every night in the city of New Bedford for the tourism to catch on.
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1:47:38
Thank you.
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1:47:40
Thank you.
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1:47:40
Anyone else on that first?
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1:47:43
And the second, I have Councilor Oliver.
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1:47:46
Thank you, Mr. President.
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1:47:47
The good thing— the good news is regardless of the action that we take tonight, we're not the ones that are going to be making that decision that who goes, who doesn't go, because the administration's already told us they're only going to uphold the cuts that they've deemed necessary or they deem to not be ridiculous or whatever, you know, adjectives that we want to give some of, some of the cuts.
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1:48:11
Make the cut, that the administration is going to show us what his sacred cows are, what their sacred cows are, and they'll find the money elsewhere.
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1:48:20
So this is an opportunity where the council can act in a big way and be able to be fiscally responsible at the same time.
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1:48:27
Thank you.
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1:48:28
Thank you, Councilor Oliver.
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1:48:30
Chair recognizes Councilor Pemberton on his second.
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1:48:33
Thank you again, Mr. President.
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1:48:35
I just want to say, just add to what I previously said.
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1:48:38
Right now we have a big thing that's going on, right?
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1:48:41
It's soccer.
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1:48:42
We have a big soccer— we're a big soccer city.
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1:48:45
We play soccer at Riverside, we play soccer at Brooklawn, and we play at the Dyers Field.
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1:48:51
You know, they could have— we could have had a big powwow with the soccer thing.
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1:48:57
We could have been at the Fort Tabor, maybe with a big TV showing the games, have some food trucks down there and whatever.
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1:49:05
We could have made some money on this, but we didn't.
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1:49:08
We dropped the ball once again.
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1:49:10
Thank you.
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1:49:12
Thank you, Councilor.
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1:49:15
Anyone else on that first?
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Chair recognizes Councilor Burgo on a second.
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1:49:19
Uh, first I just want to mention I totally agree with the councilor from Ward 3.
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1:49:25
You're absolutely right.
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1:49:25
I wish that he had that same stance back when we were voting on the cuts to the solicitor's office, he seemed very squeamish with $150,000 versus $100,000.
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1:49:33
But regardless, although there is an argument to say we should just cut it all because the mayor is going to ignore it all, there needs to be some protections from the adults in the room realizing that this mayor is ridiculous.
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1:49:49
Because, for example, last year when we made reasonable cuts to, for example, the energy costs, the electricity costs at the library, which we haven't talked about the fact that they had a surplus in their electricity account this year.
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1:50:03
The mayor had these austerity measures that were out of whack, and he had the public outraged that we closed these libraries, which we know is not the case.
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1:50:13
So because the public doesn't pay attention oftentimes to cut night and to what's really going on, if we effectively make these cuts, the mayor may fire these 2 individuals who, to my next point here that my colleagues mentioned, it is not their job to do the marketing for these businesses or for '50s Night.
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Or as you all know, I've been a longtime member of the Cape Verdean Recognition Committee.
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1:50:37
My family started Cape Verdean Recognition Day, which led into week.
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1:50:41
We would not want the city to take over our cultural events.
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1:50:46
Those are our cultural events.
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1:50:47
The Madeira Feast, the Feast of the Blessed Sacrament.
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1:50:50
They wouldn't want the city to come in and take it over.
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No.
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Yes, they'd want the city to support it.
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And just like that, these city events, DPI, DFFM, they'll tell you at all these events, they thank the city departments that have assisted with these events.
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And I'm sure as a previous organizer of 50s on— I don't know if you're going to do it again this year, my colleague from Ward 5.
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I'm sure you had collaboration with the city.
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1:51:17
That does not happen without tourism and marketing, without DFFM, without DPI.
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1:51:22
So this again, please do not be short-sighted in this moment.
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I ask you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Anyone else?
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1:51:32
Just from the chair, I can't support the cuts to them, this, these accounts.
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1:51:36
I just would like to reiterate I would just like to reiterate that the— if they bring in $1 million worth of tourism to our city, it is worth it.
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I do think to operate a better tourism and marketing team, that would need to grow.
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1:51:55
It is— we are in no position to grow that at this time.
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1:51:58
However, I can't support eliminating that because even though they might not bring in the sizable amount of tourism we think that city deserves.
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1:52:06
We know that this city deserves the amount that they do.
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1:52:10
It well warrants their expense.
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1:52:13
That's a high ROI on, on, on that department.
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1:52:17
Thank you.
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1:52:18
Anyone else?
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1:52:20
I'll ask the clerk to call the— oh, Councilor Gomes on his second.
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1:52:25
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
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1:52:27
And, and I understand what you're saying, and maybe, maybe I'm a little harsh on this But I'm looking for more out of that office.
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1:52:35
And I understand it's 2 individuals, but I'm looking for more.
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1:52:39
And I think it was said here just a short time ago, many of these organizations have been established long before this tourism office came.
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1:52:47
They're established.
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1:52:48
They're going to be here anyway.
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1:52:49
What the city does is jump on that and they make the book look good and it's this and that.
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1:52:55
Yeah, okay.
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1:52:57
I need more than that.
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1:52:59
I need— I'm sorry, you can't put us in a book and expect that the numbers are there.
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1:53:05
You've got to be creative besides what is already established and what is going on.
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1:53:09
So it's tourism time here all the time.
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1:53:14
You remember back when we were, um, during the COVID thing, I, I, they talked about them heated lamps, some heated trees.
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1:53:23
And if any of you were here, you remember when I said, as many as we could purchase, purchase them.
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1:53:30
Why?
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1:53:30
Well, at the time they could be used outside of the restaurants and places like we wanted to use them.
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1:53:35
But then we could take those back.
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1:53:37
We don't have water running through this damn city, but we do have a historical area, and we could have historical fires.
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1:53:43
You understand?
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1:53:44
You've got to set the atmosphere.
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1:53:46
You've got to set the atmosphere for people to be here.
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1:53:49
You have to set the atmosphere if you put a band playing on the corner in front of the art museum.
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1:53:54
And I'm not talking about a rock and roll band, I'm talking about a jazz band or something.
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1:53:58
A stimulator like we see in other towns where we go.
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1:54:01
That has to be done here.
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1:54:02
This can't be done in them one-shot deals and— we did a great job.
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1:54:08
'Cause we didn't do a good job.
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1:54:10
And we pay you a lot of damn money.
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1:54:13
And when you give me an idea and I don't see anything back from it, I've got a real problem.
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1:54:18
And I'm going to still tell you, I have a problem when I don't see red, white, and blue throughout this city right now.
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1:54:23
And maybe some will feel different about that, but I'm into America.
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1:54:26
I love America, and this is the second one I'm getting to go through.
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1:54:29
And maybe if I'm lucky, I'll do a third one.
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1:54:31
I don't know, you know.
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1:54:33
You know, it's been said around here, Gomes was around then, he'll be around again.
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1:54:37
Dennis is laughing.
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1:54:38
It's a joke.
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1:54:39
I hope you all can take it.
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1:54:41
The whole thing is, I'd just like to see more come out of that office.
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1:54:45
More tourism for this city all the time.
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1:54:48
Remember them fires, remember them food trucks that you could put down there with entertainment or whatever, keeping the place a little clean, driving out some of the vagrants that we see, some of the garbage in the trash that you see.
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1:54:59
That's part of tourism, isn't it, Mr. President?
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1:55:02
Thanks for the opportunity.
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1:55:04
Thank you, Councilor.
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1:55:06
Councilor Choquette on his first.
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1:55:08
Thank you, Mr. President.
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1:55:09
All I would say to to this is simply this: in Ward 1, there are far more Save Station 9 signs out than there are American flags or, or Fourth of July decorations out right now.
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So vote accordingly.
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1:55:27
Thank you.
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1:55:31
Thank you.
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1:55:32
Anyone else?
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1:55:36
Okay, I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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1:55:39
Councilor Abram.
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1:55:41
No.
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1:55:41
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:55:43
No.
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1:55:43
Councilor Burgoyne.
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1:55:44
No.
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1:55:45
Councilor Carney.
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1:55:45
No.
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1:55:46
No.
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1:55:46
Councilor Chouquette.
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1:55:48
Yes.
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1:55:49
Councilor Gomes.
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1:55:50
I'll meet you halfway.
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1:55:51
No.
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1:55:52
No.
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1:55:53
Councilor Lopes.
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1:55:54
No.
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1:55:54
No.
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1:55:55
Councilor Oliver.
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1:55:56
Yes.
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1:55:56
Yes.
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1:55:57
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:55:58
Yes.
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1:55:58
Councilor Pereira.
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1:56:00
No.
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1:56:00
No.
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1:56:00
Councilor Roy.
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1:56:02
No, no, no.
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1:56:04
Fails 3 to 8, Mr. President.
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1:56:05
Item fails 3 to 8.
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1:56:07
Number 108 is before us, Mr. President.
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1:56:11
108 is a cut to the Tourism Marketing Office in the 200 account in the amount of $58,828, sponsored by Councillors Oliver, Chauquet, and Pemberton.
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1:56:19
Councillor Abreu?
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1:56:21
No.
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1:56:21
No.
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1:56:22
Councillor Baptiste?
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1:56:22
No.
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1:56:23
No.
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1:56:23
Councillor Burgos?
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1:56:24
No.
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1:56:24
No.
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1:56:25
Councillor Carney?
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1:56:26
No.
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1:56:26
No.
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1:56:27
Councillor Chauquet?
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1:56:29
Yes, Councilor Gomes.
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1:56:30
A little less than halfway.
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1:56:31
Yes.
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1:56:32
Yes, Councilor Lopes.
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1:56:33
No.
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1:56:34
No, Councilor Oliver.
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1:56:35
Yes.
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1:56:36
Yes, Councilor Pemberton.
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1:56:37
Yes.
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1:56:38
Yes, Councilor Pemberton— uh, Pereira.
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1:56:39
No.
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1:56:40
No, Councilor Roy.
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1:56:41
No.
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1:56:42
No, fails 4 to 7.
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1:56:44
Item fails 4 to 7.
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1:56:45
109 is before us.
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1:56:47
Mr. President, 109 is cut to the tourism and marketing in the 400 account in the amount of $3,000, sponsored by Councilors Oliver, Choquette, Hemmerton and Abril.
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Chair recognizes Councillor Burgos.
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1:56:57
Really quickly, just, uh, because we see a number that's $3,000 and we think like, oh, it's not that bad.
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1:57:03
Again, I just want to remind colleagues, this 400 account, the total amount of the 400 account is $3,000.
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So if we— if you are to vote yes to eliminate this $3,000, it is effectively zeroing out that account, 100% of it.
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1:57:17
So although you see the number is $3,000, and it seems small and insignificant, it is completely wiping it out.
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1:57:24
I just wanted to make that note.
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Thank you.
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1:57:26
Thank you.
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1:57:27
Anyone else?
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Clerk of Councilor Oliver.
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1:57:30
Thank you, Mr. President.
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1:57:32
Yes, it is a complete elimination.
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1:57:33
We're not eliminating the entire, uh, department as, as we see.
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1:57:38
He can move it from somewhere else.
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1:57:39
Let it get him from somewhere else.
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1:57:41
Thank you.
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1:57:42
Thank you.
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1:57:43
Anyone else?
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1:57:45
Number 109.
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1:57:46
I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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1:57:48
Councilor Abreu.
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1:57:50
I'm sorry.
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1:57:51
Yes.
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1:57:51
Councilor Baptiste.
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1:57:53
No.
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1:57:53
Councilor Burgos.
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1:57:54
No.
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1:57:55
Councilor Carney.
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1:57:55
Yes.
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1:57:56
Yes.
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1:57:56
Councilor Choquette.
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1:57:57
Yes.
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1:57:58
Yes.
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1:57:58
Councilor Gomes.
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1:57:59
No.
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1:58:00
No.
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1:58:00
Councilor Lopes.
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1:58:01
Yes.
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1:58:02
Yes.
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1:58:02
Councilor Oliver.
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1:58:04
Yes.
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1:58:04
Yes.
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1:58:04
Councilor Pemberton.
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1:58:05
Yes.
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1:58:06
Yes.
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1:58:06
Councilor Pereira.
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1:58:07
No.
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1:58:08
No.
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1:58:08
Councilor Roy.
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1:58:09
No.
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1:58:10
No.
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1:58:10
Passes 6 to 5.
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1:58:12
Item passes 6 to 5.
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1:58:15
110 is before us.
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1:58:17
Mr. President, 110 is a cut to the Tourism and Marketing Office and 700 account in the amount of $16,034, sponsored by Councillors Oliver, Choquette, Abreu, Pemberton, and Carney.
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Councillor Abreu?
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1:58:31
Yes.
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1:58:31
Councillor Baptiste?
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1:58:33
No.
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1:58:33
Councillor Burgos?
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1:58:35
No.
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1:58:35
Councillor Carney?
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1:58:36
Yes.
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1:58:37
Yes.
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1:58:37
Councillor Choquette?
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1:58:39
Yes.
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1:58:39
Councilor Gomes?
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1:58:40
Yes.
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1:58:40
Yes.
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1:58:41
Councilor Lopes?
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1:58:42
No.
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1:58:42
No.
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1:58:43
Councilor Oliver?
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1:58:44
Yes.
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1:58:44
Yes.
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1:58:44
Councilor Pemberton?
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1:58:45
Yes.
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1:58:46
Yes.
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1:58:46
Councilor Pereira?
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1:58:48
No.
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1:58:48
No.
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1:58:48
Councilor Roy?
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1:58:49
No.
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1:58:50
No.
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1:58:50
Passes 6 to 5.
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1:58:51
Item passes 6 to 5.
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1:58:54
That brings us to 114.
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1:58:58
Mr. President, item 114 is a cut to the Treasurer and Collector's Office in the 700 account in the amount of $2,500.
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1:59:03
Dollars, proposed by Councillors Lopes, Choquette, Abreu, Pemberton, and Pereira.
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Councillor Abreu?
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1:59:10
Yes.
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1:59:10
Councillor Baptiste?
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1:59:12
No.
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1:59:13
Councillor Burgos?
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1:59:14
No.
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1:59:14
Councillor Carney?
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1:59:16
No.
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1:59:17
No.
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1:59:17
Councillor Choquette?
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1:59:18
Yes.
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1:59:19
Yes.
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1:59:19
Councillor Gomes?
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1:59:20
No.
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1:59:21
Councillor Lopes?
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1:59:21
Yes.
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1:59:22
Yes.
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1:59:22
Councillor Oliver?
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1:59:23
Yes.
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1:59:24
Yes.
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1:59:24
Councillor Pemberton?
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1:59:25
Yes.
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1:59:26
Yes.
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1:59:26
Councillor Pereira?
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1:59:27
Yes.
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1:59:28
Yes.
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1:59:28
Councillor Roy?
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1:59:30
No, no, passes 6 to 5.
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1:59:31
Item passes 6 to 5.
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1:59:34
That brings us to number 117.
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1:59:40
Mr. President, item 117 is cut to the zoo, the personal services.
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1:59:45
All right, just 117 for now.
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1:59:50
Um, there is a co-sponsor.
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1:59:51
Would Councilor Pemberton also withdraw his name?
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1:59:54
Yes.
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1:59:55
All right, 117 has been withdrawn.
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1:59:58
118 is now before— Mr. President, in 118 is a cut to the zoo in the 200 account in the amount of $25,000, proposed by Councilor Carney.
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Councilor Abramowicz?
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2:00:08
No.
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2:00:08
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:00:09
No.
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2:00:10
Councilor Burgos?
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2:00:11
No.
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2:00:12
Councilor Carney?
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2:00:13
Yes.
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2:00:13
Yes.
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2:00:14
Councilor Choquette?
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2:00:15
No.
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2:00:16
No.
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2:00:16
Councilor Gomes?
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2:00:17
No.
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2:00:17
Councilor Lopes?
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2:00:18
No.
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2:00:19
No.
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2:00:19
Councilor Oliver?
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2:00:21
Yes.
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2:00:21
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:00:22
Yes.
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2:00:23
Yes.
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2:00:23
Councilor Pereira?
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2:00:24
No.
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2:00:25
No.
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2:00:25
Councilor Roy?
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2:00:26
No.
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2:00:26
No.
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2:00:27
Fails 3 to 8.
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2:00:28
Item fails 3 to 8.
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2:00:30
119 is before us.
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2:00:32
Mr. President, item 119 is a cut to the zoo in the 200 account in the amount of $20,000, sponsored by Councilor Carney.
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Councilor Abreu?
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2:00:40
No.
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2:00:40
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:00:42
No.
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2:00:42
Councilor Burgos?
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2:00:44
No.
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2:00:44
Councilor Carney?
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2:00:45
Yes.
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2:00:46
Yes.
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2:00:46
Councilor Choquette?
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2:00:47
No.
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2:00:48
No.
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2:00:48
Councilor Gomes?
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2:00:49
No.
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2:00:49
No.
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2:00:50
Councilor Lopes?
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2:00:51
No.
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2:00:51
No.
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2:00:51
Councilor Oliver?
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2:00:52
Yes.
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2:00:53
Yes.
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2:00:53
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:00:54
Yes.
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2:00:54
Yes.
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2:00:55
Councilor Pereira?
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2:00:55
No.
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2:00:56
No.
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2:00:57
Councilor Roy?
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2:00:57
No.
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2:00:58
No.
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2:00:58
Fails 3 to 8.
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2:00:59
Item fails 3 to 8.
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2:01:00
120 is before us.
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2:01:02
Mr., uh, Mr. President, I'd like to withdraw 120.
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2:01:06
All right, 120 has been withdrawn.
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2:01:08
And 120— Mr. President, I would like to withdraw And I approve as well.
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2:01:16
All right, with item 121 is withdrawn, so we are at 122.
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2:01:22
Number 122, Mr. President.
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Item 122 is cut the city utilities and a 200 account in the amount of $500,000, sponsored by Councilor Lopes.
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2:01:32
On the question, Councilor Lopes.
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On the question.
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So if we all picked up our mayor's papers, you will calculate there's almost $500,000 in transfers to the city's utilities.
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We were told during the budget process that we were probably going to run into a deficit this year, but miraculously there's a surplus, almost to the same exact amount that I'm cutting for next year.
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And the Straits of Hormuz are opening up, gas is already coming down in price, so the argument that was presented to us was, let's build a cushion into it just in case.
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Well, they built a cushion last year, and now we're transferring it out.
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So instead of giving them a cushion this year, let's Let's make it— cut it out.
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2:02:07
And as the council president has said, if we need to make additional adds later on, we can do it when we need to.
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2:02:12
Thank you.
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2:02:17
Anyone else?
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2:02:19
I will ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:02:21
Councilor Abril?
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2:02:22
No.
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2:02:22
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:02:24
Yes.
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2:02:24
Councilor Bruggo?
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2:02:25
Yes.
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2:02:26
Yes.
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2:02:26
Councilor Carney?
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2:02:27
No.
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2:02:28
No.
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2:02:28
Councilor Choquette?
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2:02:30
No.
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2:02:32
Councillor Gomes?
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2:02:33
Yes.
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Yes.
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2:02:34
Councillor Lopes?
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2:02:35
Yes.
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2:02:35
Yes.
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2:02:36
Councillor Oliver?
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2:02:36
Yes.
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2:02:37
Yes.
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2:02:37
Councillor Pemberton?
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2:02:38
Yes.
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2:02:39
Yes.
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2:02:39
Councillor Pereira?
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2:02:40
No.
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2:02:41
No.
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2:02:41
Councillor Roy?
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2:02:42
No.
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2:02:43
No.
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2:02:43
Passes 6 to 5.
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Item passes 6 to 5.
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2:02:50
Brings us to 132.
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That's right, Mr. President.
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2:02:55
Item 132 is a cut to the debt services in the amount of $500,000, sponsored by Councillor Carney.
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2:03:02
Councilor Abramowicz?
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2:03:03
No.
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2:03:04
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:03:05
No.
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2:03:05
Councilor Burgos?
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2:03:06
No.
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2:03:06
Councilor Carney?
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2:03:08
Yes.
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2:03:09
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:03:10
No.
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2:03:11
Councilor Gomes?
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2:03:12
No.
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2:03:12
Councilor Lopes?
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2:03:13
No.
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2:03:14
Councilor Oliver?
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2:03:16
No.
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2:03:16
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:03:17
No.
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2:03:17
Councilor Pereira?
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2:03:19
No.
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2:03:19
Councilor Roy?
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2:03:22
No.
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2:03:23
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:03:24
I will ask the clerk to call call to read number 133.
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2:03:28
Mr. President, item 133 is a cut to the debt services department in the amount of $400,000, sponsored by Councilor Carney.
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2:03:36
Councilor Abreu?
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2:03:37
No.
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2:03:37
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:03:38
No.
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2:03:39
Councilor Burgos?
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2:03:40
No.
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2:03:40
Councilor Carney?
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2:03:42
Yes.
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2:03:43
Yes.
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2:03:43
Councilor Chilquette?
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2:03:44
No.
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2:03:45
Councilor Gomes?
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2:03:46
No.
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2:03:47
Councilor Lopes?
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2:03:48
No.
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2:03:49
Councilor Oliver?
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2:03:50
No.
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2:03:50
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:03:51
No.
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2:03:52
No.
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2:03:52
Councilor Pereira?
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2:03:53
No.
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2:03:53
No.
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2:03:54
Councilor Roy?
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2:03:55
No.
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2:03:55
No.
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2:03:56
Fails 1 to 10.
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2:03:57
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:04:00
No.
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2:04:01
Good.
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2:04:02
Thank you though.
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2:04:02
All right, 134.
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2:04:04
Mr. President, item 134 is a cut to debt services in the amount of $300,000 sponsored by Councilor Carney.
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2:04:11
Councilor Abram?
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2:04:14
No.
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2:04:15
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:04:16
No.
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2:04:17
Councilor Burgo?
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2:04:18
No.
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2:04:19
Councilor Carney?
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2:04:20
Yes.
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2:04:20
Yes.
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2:04:21
Councilor Choquette?
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2:04:22
No.
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2:04:23
Councilor Gomes?
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2:04:24
No.
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2:04:24
Councilor Lopes?
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2:04:25
No.
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2:04:26
No.
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2:04:26
Councilor Oliver?
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2:04:27
No.
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2:04:28
No.
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2:04:28
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:04:29
No.
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2:04:29
No.
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2:04:30
Councilor Pereira?
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2:04:31
No.
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2:04:31
No.
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2:04:31
Councilor Roy?
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2:04:33
No.
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2:04:33
No.
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2:04:33
1 to 10.
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2:04:35
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:04:37
135 is before us.
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2:04:39
Mr. President, item 135 is a cut to debt services in the amount of $200,000.
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2:04:43
Sponsored by Council Carney.
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2:04:44
Councilor Avery?
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2:04:45
No.
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2:04:46
No.
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2:04:46
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:04:47
No.
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2:04:47
No.
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2:04:48
Councilor Burgow?
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2:04:49
No.
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2:04:49
Councilor Carney?
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2:04:50
Yes.
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2:04:51
Yes.
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2:04:51
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:04:53
No.
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2:04:53
Councilor Gomes?
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2:04:54
No.
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2:04:55
Councilor Lopes?
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2:04:55
No.
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2:04:56
No.
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2:04:56
Councilor Oliver?
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2:04:57
No.
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2:04:57
No.
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2:04:58
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:04:59
No.
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2:04:59
No.
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2:04:59
Councilor Pereira?
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2:05:00
No.
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2:05:01
No.
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2:05:01
Councilor Roy?
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2:05:02
No.
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2:05:03
No.
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2:05:03
1 to 10 fails.
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2:05:05
1 to 10.
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2:05:06
Now brings us to 136.
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2:05:09
Mr. President, item 136 is cut the unemployment compensation, the 200 account, in the amount of $150,000, sponsored by Councilor Lopes.
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2:05:17
I would just like to— okay, I would just like to say, uh, you know, there was a large increase in the unemployment insurance account number.
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2:05:28
Now I understand that there will be layoffs as a result of budget cuts, uh, that the administration has made.
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2:05:36
In presenting the budget.
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2:05:37
However, we are now hearing of numerous individuals who are going to be selecting retirement.
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2:05:44
They will not need unemployment insurance because they are going to retire and collect their benefits.
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2:05:48
They have age, they have tenure.
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2:05:53
As it was said by the CFO, that this was an estimating all employees took unemployment insurance and a buffer.
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2:06:01
I support the councilor's cut.
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2:06:04
We have employees that are going to retire, and hopefully the work here tonight results in less layoffs in the future.
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2:06:10
So I, I expect the city to absolutely accommodate a $150,000 reduction in unemployment insurance, and I encourage my colleagues to do so because I know of at least 5 individuals retiring.
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2:06:23
That's 5 unemployment insurance payments we do not have to make.
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2:06:26
They are choosing retirement.
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2:06:27
It makes sense.
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2:06:29
Thank you very much.
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2:06:30
Anyone else?
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2:06:31
I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:06:34
Councilor Abramowicz?
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2:06:35
Yes.
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2:06:36
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:06:38
Yes.
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2:06:38
Councilor Burgow?
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2:06:39
Yes.
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2:06:40
Councilor Carney?
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2:06:41
No.
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2:06:41
No.
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2:06:42
Councilor Choquette?
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2:06:43
Yes.
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2:06:44
Yes.
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2:06:44
Councilor Gomes?
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2:06:45
Yes.
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2:06:46
Yes.
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2:06:46
Councilor Lopes?
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2:06:47
Yes.
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2:06:48
Yes.
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2:06:48
Councilor Oliver?
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2:06:49
Yes.
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2:06:50
Yes.
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2:06:50
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:06:51
Yes.
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2:06:51
Yes.
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2:06:52
Councilor Pereira?
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2:06:52
Yes.
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2:06:53
Yes.
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2:06:53
Councilor Roy?
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2:06:55
Yes.
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2:06:55
Yes.
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2:06:56
Passes 10 to 1, Mr. President.
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2:06:58
Item passes 10 to 1.
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2:07:02
That brings us to number 141.
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2:07:08
Mr. President, item 141 is to cut the waste collection, the 200 account, in the amount of $1 million, sponsored by Councilor Carney.
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2:07:15
Councilor Abril?
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2:07:17
No.
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2:07:17
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:07:19
No.
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2:07:19
Councilor Burgos?
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2:07:20
No.
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2:07:21
Councilor Carney?
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2:07:22
Yes.
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2:07:22
Yes.
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2:07:23
Councilor Choquette?
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2:07:25
No.
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2:07:26
Councilor Gomes?
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2:07:27
No.
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2:07:27
No.
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2:07:27
Councilor Lopes?
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2:07:28
No.
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2:07:29
No.
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2:07:29
Councilor Oliver?
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2:07:30
No.
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2:07:31
No.
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2:07:31
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:07:32
No.
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2:07:33
No.
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2:07:33
Councilor Pereira?
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2:07:34
No.
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2:07:35
No.
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2:07:35
Councilor Roy?
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2:07:36
No.
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2:07:36
No.
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2:07:36
Fails 1 to 10.
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2:07:39
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:07:46
Number 142.
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2:07:47
Mr. President, item 142 is a cut to waste collection in the 200 account in the amount of $900,000, sponsored by Councilor Carney.
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2:07:55
Councilor Raybould?
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2:07:57
No.
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2:07:57
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:07:58
No.
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2:07:59
Councilor Burgos?
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2:08:00
No.
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2:08:00
No.
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2:08:01
Councilor Carney?
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2:08:02
Yes.
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2:08:03
Yes.
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2:08:03
Councilor Choquette?
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2:08:05
No.
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2:08:05
Councilor Gomes?
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2:08:07
No.
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2:08:07
Councilor Lopes?
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2:08:08
No.
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2:08:09
No.
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2:08:09
Councilor Oliver?
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2:08:11
No.
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2:08:12
No.
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2:08:12
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:08:13
No.
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2:08:13
No.
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2:08:13
Councilor Pereira?
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2:08:15
No.
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2:08:15
No.
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2:08:15
Councilor Roy?
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2:08:16
No.
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2:08:17
No.
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2:08:17
Fails 1 to 10.
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2:08:19
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:08:21
Mr. President, item 143 is a cut to the waste collection in the 200 account in the amount of $800,000, sponsored by Councilor Carney.
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2:08:27
Councilor Abram?
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2:08:28
No.
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2:08:28
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:08:30
Councilor Burgo?
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2:08:32
No.
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2:08:32
Councilor Carney?
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2:08:34
Yes.
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2:08:34
Yes.
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2:08:35
Councilor Choquette?
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2:08:37
No.
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2:08:37
Councilor Gomes?
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2:08:39
No.
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2:08:40
No.
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2:08:40
Councilor Lopes?
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2:08:41
No.
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2:08:41
No.
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2:08:42
Councilor Oliver?
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2:08:43
No.
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2:08:43
No.
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2:08:44
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:08:44
No.
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2:08:45
No.
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2:08:45
Councilor Pereira?
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2:08:46
No.
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2:08:47
No.
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2:08:47
Councilor Roy?
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2:08:48
No.
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2:08:49
No.
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2:08:49
Fails 1 to 9.
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2:08:51
Fails 1 to 9.
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2:08:53
Mr. President, item 144 is a cut to waste collection, a 200 account, the amount of $700,000, offered by Councilor Carney.
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2:09:00
Councilor Abril?
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2:09:02
No, Councilor Baptiste.
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2:09:03
No, Councilor Burgos.
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2:09:05
No, Councilor Carney.
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2:09:06
Yes.
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2:09:07
Yes, Councilor Choquette.
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2:09:09
No, Councilor Gomes.
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2:09:11
No.
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2:09:12
No, Councilor Lopes.
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2:09:13
No.
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2:09:13
No, Councilor Oliver.
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2:09:14
No.
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2:09:15
No, Councilor Pemberton.
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2:09:16
No.
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2:09:17
No, Councilor Pereira.
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2:09:18
No.
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2:09:18
No, Councilor Roy.
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2:09:19
No.
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2:09:20
No, fails 1 to 10.
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2:09:22
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:09:25
Mr. President, item 145 is a cut to the Waste Collection Department in 200 account in the amount of $600,000 offered by Councilor Carney.
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2:09:33
Councilor Abril?
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2:09:35
No.
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2:09:35
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:09:37
No.
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2:09:37
Councilor Burgos?
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2:09:38
No.
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2:09:38
Councilor Carney?
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2:09:40
Yes.
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2:09:40
Yes.
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2:09:41
Councilor Choquette?
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2:09:42
No.
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2:09:42
Councilor Gomes?
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2:09:44
No.
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2:09:44
Councilor Lopes?
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2:09:45
No.
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2:09:46
No.
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2:09:46
Councilor Oliver?
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2:09:47
No.
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2:09:47
No.
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2:09:48
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:09:48
Nope.
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2:09:49
No.
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2:09:49
Councilor Pereira?
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2:09:50
No.
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2:09:50
No.
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2:09:51
Councilor Roy?
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2:09:51
No.
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2:09:52
No.
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2:09:53
Fails 1 to 10.
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2:09:54
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:09:57
Mr. President, item 146 is the cut waste collection, the 200-count, amount of $500,000.
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2:10:03
It's offered by Councilor Carney.
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2:10:05
On the question, Councilor Carney.
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2:10:07
So I like my little exercise here.
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2:10:11
Um, our waste collection went up by 39% this year.
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2:10:15
We went up 3— over $3 million from last year.
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2:10:19
I put this in there because we have not settled the collection— the, but the, uh, contract yet.
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2:10:26
And they were talking about reducing something, reducing one item or whatever, the, um, yard collection to a few days and whatever.
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2:10:35
So I think people can live with that if we could take— shave a little bit off this.
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2:10:40
But I think we never get a chance as a council to even debate or even talk about the waste collection and the trash collections.
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2:10:50
And I think it's a shame, and we should be involved in that, to that conversation since it's so big.
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2:10:54
So anyways, that's why we're in there, so we can just bring it down to bring to the attention that we are over $3 million more from last year and our waste collection.
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2:11:02
Thank you.
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2:11:03
Thank you.
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2:11:03
Council Oliver, did you want to speak?
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2:11:15
Councilor Abrams?
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2:11:17
No.
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2:11:17
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:11:18
No.
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2:11:19
Councilor Burgos?
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2:11:20
No.
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2:11:21
Councilor Carney?
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2:11:22
Yes.
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2:11:22
Yes.
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2:11:23
Councilor Choquette?
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2:11:24
No.
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2:11:24
Councilor Gomes?
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2:11:26
No.
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2:11:26
Councilor Lopes?
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2:11:27
No.
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2:11:29
No.
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2:11:30
Councilor Oliver?
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2:11:31
No.
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2:11:31
No.
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2:11:31
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:11:32
No.
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2:11:33
No.
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2:11:33
Councilor Ferreira?
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2:11:35
No.
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2:11:35
Councilor Roy?
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2:11:36
No.
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2:11:37
Fails 1 to 10, Mr. President.
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2:11:38
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:11:40
All right, 147, the Zaitarian Theater 200 account for $395,000.
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2:11:46
Councilor Oliver, the sponsor.
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2:11:48
Chair recognizes Councilor Oliver.
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2:11:50
Thank you, Mr. President.
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2:11:52
Um, I, you know, I don't know what the, uh, the headlines will read tomorrow.
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2:11:57
Councilor Oliver hates tourism and hates the Zaitarian and the arts.
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2:12:01
Whatever.
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2:12:01
I assure you that's not the case.
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2:12:04
These— no, there's no doubt that the Zytarian is doing, you know, some of what in which they spoke about bringing people downtown, filling the eateries and some of the shops on a Z night.
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This is a contractual obligation that we've entered into with the Zytarian.
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2:12:25
I am well aware that we are contractually obligated to pay for this.
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2:12:29
Just like we did last year, we cut it.
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2:12:32
The administration found the money elsewhere, or attempted to find the money elsewhere.
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2:12:40
But the money is in the budget.
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2:12:43
The money is here.
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2:12:44
I think we have an opportunity to take that bite out of the apple, like I said last time when we started.
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2:12:50
This is our opportunity here to be able to give the taxpayers at least a little bit of a cushion.
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2:12:57
Because not so much a cushion, but we're ultimately looking for the monies, like I said, to keep that fire station open.
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2:13:05
Whether the police— whether the administration acts accordingly with the work that we've done tonight, we don't know.
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2:13:13
But we need to be able to cut as much money as possible to ensure that we have the biggest opportunity to do so.
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2:13:18
So with that that, I yield.
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2:13:19
Thank you.
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2:13:20
Thank you.
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2:13:20
Councilor Burgel.
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2:13:24
Thank you so much, Mr. President.
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2:13:27
Doing an excellent job tonight.
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2:13:29
Um, I just wanted to say that headline would be way too long, Councilor Oliver.
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2:13:33
Um, and I— they're not doing some of which, they're doing all of which they said they would do with the $395,000 and with the $495,000 they had last year.
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2:13:44
It's a reduction from last year, because this was all in the support agreement.
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2:13:47
This is not a surprise gotcha amount of money.
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2:13:51
This is not an investment.
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2:13:52
This is, as you pointed out, a contractual obligation, just like all those ridiculous waste collection cuts that we all voted no on and we laughed at Councilor Carney on, was because we know we have to pay the waste contract, just like we have to pay the Z contract.
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2:14:07
And the reason why that is, is because we can't rely on the corner office to do what's right.
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2:14:12
This is why he took this out of DFFM.
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2:14:15
And I understand, I agree with your point that we shouldn't reward this administration this way because they find ways to steal the taxpayer dollars to spend the way they want to spend.
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2:14:26
But we saw what happened last year when this council erroneously cut and zeroed out the Z budget, the backlash that came.
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2:14:33
And the reason why I typically would go with that approach and say the administration will find the money somewhere else if it was in a department that could absorb it.
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2:14:41
But because it's on its standalone, it jeopardizes the historical tax credits that they receive.
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2:14:48
And it would jeopardize the project.
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2:14:49
Right now they're open and we see the tangible effects of what they're doing now.
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2:14:55
But make no mistake, they're still under construction.
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2:14:57
They're still making further improvements to— again, you're going to know what I'm going to say— A city-owned building.
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2:15:03
You already knew it, right?
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2:15:04
A city-owned building.
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2:15:06
She has it written right there.
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2:15:07
We know that this is our building.
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2:15:09
It's New Bedford's building, and we are essentially paying them to be a custodian for this building.
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2:15:15
So again, I urge my colleagues, we— the mayor didn't find the money.
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2:15:19
He— we restored it, rightfully so, and I'm proud of this body for doing that last year.
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2:15:24
Please do not make the mistake that we made last year.
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2:15:28
By reducing this down to zero, because we know we cannot count on this administration to be the adult in the room.
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2:15:34
Unfortunately, we have to be the adults right now.
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2:15:37
Do not reduce this line item.
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2:15:39
Protect the Z and the resource that it has been for our local businesses and the visitors of New Bedford.
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2:15:45
Thank you.
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2:15:46
Thank you, Councilor Raybroux.
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2:15:48
Thank you, Mr. President.
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2:15:50
You break it, you buy it, okay?
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2:15:52
$36 million is what we sunk into Zyterian Theatre.
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2:15:56
Local money, local receipts, state money, CDBG money, CPA money, CIP money, anything else of the alphabet soup you want to put in there.
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2:16:05
The reality is that we continued to fund the Z because we knew that there was going to be a return on the investment, but just not the downtown, but for the, the greater South Coast region.
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2:16:15
And I understand my esteemed colleague from Ward 3's point, I really do.
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2:16:21
He makes some really tangible, cogent points.
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2:16:24
However, let's not let private industry suffer as a result of our opinion of this Zaitarian theater.
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2:16:34
Just go talk to any restaurant downtown right now.
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2:16:37
Talk to any retailer, but we'll stick on the restaurants.
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2:16:40
Their receipts, their gross revenue receipts are up 30% on show nights.
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2:16:44
They were down almost half, 50% almost, throughout those show nights that would have been show nights when it was shuttered.
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2:16:51
Again, we talked about it on the council floor.
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2:16:54
It was like death by a thousand cuts for this downtown.
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2:16:57
You had the Z shuttered for over 2 years.
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2:17:00
You had the closing of the Star Store, and it goes on and on and on and on.
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2:17:06
So, um, I mean, you look at the Zaitarian Theater, there's no performing arts center anywhere else in Bristol County between here and Brockton and the South Shore.
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2:17:18
There's nothing between the Cape all the way to Providence, Rhode Island.
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2:17:22
This Criterion Theater is the arts and creative economy hub of the entire southeastern Mass corridor.
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2:17:30
We own her, as Councilor Burgos mentioned.
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2:17:34
Got to take care of her.
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2:17:35
Thank you.
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2:17:36
Thank you.
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2:17:37
Anyone else?
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2:17:39
Okay, just from the chair, my concern is if we do cut this, that a supplemental appropriation will come back.
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2:17:46
We will vote and pass a supplemental appropriation, which is essentially putting it on the taxpayers.
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2:17:52
I don't think we should operate that way.
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2:17:54
We should not be rolling the dice on something in which this body approved.
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2:18:00
We have the, we have the contract with them.
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2:18:02
I do not believe there will be enough money for, for transfers into this account to fund it.
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2:18:07
I do think at the end of the day that the safest bet is to fund this contract like we said, like we agreed to, uh, as a group previously.
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2:18:17
Thank you.
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2:18:19
Councilor Gomes.
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2:18:20
Sorry, I didn't know if you were waving before, Councilor.
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2:18:22
I apologize, I didn't see you.
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2:18:23
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
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2:18:25
No, I, I hear what you're saying.
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2:18:27
I'm one of them guys that went after the Zaitieri Theater.
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2:18:31
Now continues to go after the Zaiterian Theater, and I'll tell you why.
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2:18:34
Yes, it's our baby.
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2:18:36
Yes, a lot of money was sunk into it.
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2:18:38
But you know what?
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2:18:41
I'm going to leave that alone for a minute.
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2:18:44
The building has the power to make money, to make lots of money.
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2:18:53
When are you going to start scheduling so that you're open 5 days a week.
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2:18:57
If this helps downtown so much and receipts are up and all that, then we gotta get this place open 5, 6 days a week to draw what they have.
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2:19:06
And there are other entertainment venues between here and Providence, Rhode Island, and down the South End, and down in the Cape area.
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2:19:15
But the Zaiterian has an opportunity to do it by themselves.
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2:19:21
And I want to see that someday, to where they don't come to us for a dime.
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2:19:26
It should be self-sufficient.
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2:19:27
When you're charging what you're charging to get a drink and what's going on in the building, I understand the cost and all that, but it's our baby.
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2:19:36
Why can't it fund itself?
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2:19:38
Why can't you have more shows?
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2:19:39
Why can't you do more things, maybe movies on the weekends when you do— when you don't have anything scheduled?
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2:19:45
Open the building for some— for a reason.
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2:19:48
And I don't mean just like for a reason, for a reason that would support the public, to support the public money that went in there, to support the people who will never see the inside of that Zaiterion.
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2:19:58
And I'm going to say that again.
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2:19:59
Do you know how many people in this city have not seen the inside of the Zaiterion since it was— what was the theater before?
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2:20:08
Thank you very much.
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2:20:09
State Theater.
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2:20:12
They haven't been in there.
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2:20:14
Have no clue.
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2:20:19
I'm not going to cut this up here, but I'm going to cut this later on, and it's just sending a message.
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2:20:25
You got to get— stand on your own.
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2:20:26
You've gotten a lot of money.
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2:20:28
We were told how many things had to be repaired so long ago right here in the Smith Building by Rosemary, and that the money that they had was enough.
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2:20:39
You know, sometimes I keep my mouth shut when I really want to open my mouth and I want to ask, when was the last time everybody got a raise down at the Zaiterian?
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2:20:48
Maybe you ought to look into that.
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2:20:50
Okay?
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2:20:51
But we keep giving money.
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2:20:53
Find out what the staff's all making.
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2:20:54
Find out when's the last time she gave out the raises.
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2:20:57
See, I don't want to go there, but sometimes it just ticks me off because the way we fly about these places like it's the— it is the capital of the city.
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2:21:05
It's a good thing in the city, but it's also costed us, and also people have made money while they're telling us they need money.
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2:21:17
But we'll— one more thing.
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2:21:20
Shh, Brian, shh.
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2:21:22
You won't have anybody challenge this.
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2:21:23
You won't have anybody ask about those pays.
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2:21:25
Watch.
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2:21:27
Thank you, Councilor.
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2:21:29
Anyone else?
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2:21:31
I'll ask the clerk to call the roll on item 147.
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2:21:34
Councilor Abreu?
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2:21:35
No.
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2:21:35
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:21:37
No.
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2:21:38
Councilor Burgos?
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2:21:39
No.
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2:21:39
Councilor Carney?
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2:21:40
No.
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2:21:41
No.
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2:21:41
Councilor Choquette?
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2:21:42
No.
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2:21:43
No.
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2:21:43
Councilor Gomes?
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2:21:45
No.
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2:21:45
Councilor Lopez?
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2:21:46
No.
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2:21:47
No.
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2:21:47
Councilor Oliver?
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2:21:48
Yes.
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2:21:49
Yes.
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2:21:49
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:21:50
No.
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2:21:51
No.
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2:21:51
Councilor Pereira?
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2:21:52
No.
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2:21:52
No.
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2:21:53
Councilor Roy?
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2:21:55
No.
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2:21:55
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:21:56
Item 10, 148, is the Zatarian Theater 200 account in the amount of $375,000, sponsored by Councilor Oliver.
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2:22:06
Councilor Abril?
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2:22:07
No.
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2:22:07
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:22:09
No.
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2:22:09
Councilor Bruggo?
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2:22:10
No.
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2:22:10
Councilor Carney?
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2:22:12
No.
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2:22:13
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:22:14
No.
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2:22:15
Councilor Gomes?
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2:22:16
No.
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2:22:16
Councilor Lopes?
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2:22:17
No.
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2:22:18
Councilor Oliver?
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2:22:19
Yes.
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2:22:19
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:22:21
No.
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2:22:21
Councilor Pereira?
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2:22:22
No.
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2:22:23
No.
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2:22:23
Councilor Roy?
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2:22:24
No.
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2:22:24
No.
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2:22:25
1 to 10.
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2:22:26
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:22:27
Motion to withdraw 149 and 150.
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2:22:31
Motion has been made to withdraw 149, 150.
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2:22:35
Okay, thank you.
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2:22:37
151.
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2:22:38
Thank you.
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2:22:40
151, Zaitarian Theater 200 account in the amount of $300,000, made by Councilor Oliver.
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2:22:47
Councilor Abreu?
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2:22:49
No.
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2:22:49
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:22:51
No.
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2:22:51
Councilor Burgum?
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2:22:52
No.
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2:22:52
Councilor Carney?
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2:22:53
No.
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2:22:54
No.
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2:22:54
Councilor Chilcutt?
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2:22:56
No.
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2:22:56
No.
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2:22:57
Councilor Gomes?
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2:22:57
No.
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2:22:58
No.
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2:22:58
Councilor Lopes?
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2:22:59
No.
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2:22:59
No.
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2:23:00
Councilor Oliver?
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2:23:01
Yes.
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2:23:01
Yes.
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2:23:02
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:23:02
No.
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2:23:03
No.
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2:23:03
Councilor Pereira?
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2:23:04
No.
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2:23:05
No.
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2:23:05
Councilor Roy?
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2:23:06
No.
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2:23:06
No.
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2:23:07
1 to 10.
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2:23:08
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:23:10
Motion to withdraw 152, 153.
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2:23:14
152, 153 have been withdrawn.
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2:23:19
Item 154, Zaitarian Theater 200 account, $225,000, made by Councilor Oliver.
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2:23:26
Councilor Abramowicz?
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2:23:27
No.
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2:23:27
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:23:28
No.
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2:23:29
Councilor Burgos?
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2:23:30
No.
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2:23:30
Councilor Carney?
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2:23:32
No.
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2:23:32
No.
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2:23:33
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:23:34
No.
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2:23:34
No.
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2:23:35
Councilor Gomes?
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2:23:36
We're almost there.
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2:23:37
No.
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2:23:37
No.
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2:23:37
Councilor Lopez?
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2:23:38
No.
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2:23:39
No.
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2:23:39
Oliver?
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2:23:40
Yes.
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2:23:40
Yes.
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2:23:41
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:23:42
No.
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2:23:42
No.
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2:23:42
Councilor Pereira?
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2:23:43
No.
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2:23:44
No.
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2:23:44
Councilor Roy?
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2:23:45
No.
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2:23:46
No.
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2:23:46
Fails 1 to 10.
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2:23:47
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:23:49
Number 155, Zaitarian Theater 200 account in the amount of $200,000, sponsored by Councilors Oliver and Gomes.
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2:23:56
Councilor Abreu?
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2:23:58
No.
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2:23:58
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:24:00
No.
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2:24:00
Councilor Burgos?
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2:24:01
No.
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2:24:02
Councilor Carney?
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2:24:02
Yes.
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2:24:03
Yes.
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2:24:03
Councilor Choquette?
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2:24:04
No.
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2:24:05
No.
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2:24:05
Councilor Holmes?
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2:24:06
Yes.
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2:24:07
Yes.
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2:24:07
Councilor Lopes?
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2:24:08
No.
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2:24:09
No.
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2:24:09
Councilor Oliver?
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2:24:10
Yes.
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2:24:10
Yes.
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2:24:11
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:24:12
Yes.
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2:24:12
Yes.
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2:24:13
Councilor Pereira?
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2:24:14
No.
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2:24:15
No.
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2:24:15
Councilor Roy?
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2:24:16
No.
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2:24:16
No.
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2:24:17
Fails 4 to 7.
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2:24:18
Item fails 4 to 7.
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2:24:20
156, Criterion Theater 200 account in the amount of $175,000.
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2:24:25
Councilor Abreu?
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2:24:27
No.
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2:24:27
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:24:28
No.
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2:24:29
Councilor Bruggo?
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2:24:30
No.
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2:24:30
Councilor Carney?
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2:24:31
Yes.
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2:24:32
Yes.
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2:24:32
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:24:33
No.
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2:24:34
No.
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2:24:34
Councilor Gomes?
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2:24:35
No.
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2:24:36
No.
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2:24:36
Councilor Lopes?
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2:24:37
No.
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2:24:38
No.
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2:24:38
Councilor Oliver?
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2:24:39
Yes.
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2:24:40
Yes.
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2:24:40
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:24:41
No.
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2:24:42
No.
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2:24:42
Councilor Pereira?
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2:24:44
No.
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2:24:44
No.
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2:24:44
Councilor Roy?
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2:24:45
No.
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2:24:46
No.
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2:24:46
Fails 2 to 9.
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2:24:47
Fails 2 to 9.
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2:24:51
That was 156.
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2:24:53
I'm sorry, Mr. President, 157 is cut at this Zaiterian Theater in the 200 account in the amount of $150,000, sponsored by Councilor Oliver.
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2:25:03
Councilor Abril?
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2:25:05
No.
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2:25:05
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:25:06
No.
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2:25:07
Councilor Brigo?
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2:25:08
No.
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2:25:08
Councilor Carney?
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2:25:10
No.
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2:25:10
Councilor Chilcott?
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2:25:12
No.
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2:25:12
Councilor Gomes?
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2:25:14
Yes.
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2:25:15
Councilor Lopes?
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2:25:17
No.
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2:25:18
Councilor Oliver?
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2:25:19
Yes.
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2:25:20
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:25:21
Yes.
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2:25:22
Councilor Pereira?
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2:25:23
No.
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2:25:24
No.
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2:25:24
Councilor Roy.
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2:25:25
No.
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2:25:26
No.
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2:25:26
Fails 3 to 8.
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2:25:28
Item fails 3 to 8.
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2:25:30
Mr. President, 158 is a cut to the Zaitarian Theater in the 200 account in the amount of $125,000.
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2:25:37
Councilor Abram.
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2:25:38
No.
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2:25:38
Councilor Baptiste.
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2:25:40
No.
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2:25:40
Councilor Burgos.
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2:25:42
No.
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2:25:42
Councilor Carney.
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2:25:43
No.
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2:25:43
No.
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2:25:44
Councilor Choquette.
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2:25:45
No.
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2:25:45
No.
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2:25:46
Councilor Gomes.
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2:25:51
Yes.
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2:25:51
Councilor Lopes?
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2:25:52
No.
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2:25:53
No.
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2:25:53
Councilor Oliver?
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2:25:54
Yes.
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2:25:54
Yes.
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2:25:55
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:25:56
Yes.
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2:25:56
Yes.
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2:25:57
Councilor Pereira?
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2:25:58
No.
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2:25:58
No.
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2:25:59
Councilor Roy?
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2:25:59
No.
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2:26:00
No.
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2:26:02
Item fails 3 to 8.
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2:26:03
159.
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2:26:05
159, Mr. President, is a cut to the Zaitarian's 200 account in the amount of $100,000 offered by Councilor Oliver.
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2:26:11
Councilor Abreu?
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2:26:12
Councilor Oliver, did you want the floor?
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2:26:14
Okay.
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2:26:14
You mean no?
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2:26:18
Uh, okay, I'll give— maybe, uh, we couldn't do the whole amount.
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2:26:22
We can do a little bit here, give him some operating money, let the administration do the work.
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2:26:28
Maybe he doesn't have to come for a supplemental, can ask for a transfer.
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2:26:32
Um, I think $100,000, that's fair.
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2:26:35
I think it's— the money's in there.
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2:26:37
Um, I don't— I, I, I know the money's in there.
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2:26:40
We just have to force this administration to make the tough decisions, and the council has to stay steady in their decision and not bend to a supplemental or anything like that.
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2:26:52
So if he puts in a transfer, I'll support a transfer because I want to know where the money's coming from.
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2:26:56
Thank you.
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2:27:03
Councilor Abrams?
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2:27:04
No.
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2:27:04
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:27:06
No.
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2:27:07
No.
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2:27:07
Councilor Bruggo?
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2:27:09
No.
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2:27:09
Councilor Carney?
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2:27:10
Yes.
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2:27:10
Yes.
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2:27:11
Councilor Choquette?
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2:27:12
No.
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2:27:13
No.
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2:27:13
Councilor Gomes?
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2:27:14
Yes.
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2:27:14
Yes.
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2:27:15
Councilor Lopes?
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2:27:16
No.
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2:27:16
No.
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2:27:17
Councilor Oliver?
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2:27:18
Yes.
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2:27:18
Yes.
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2:27:19
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:27:19
Yes.
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2:27:20
Yes.
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2:27:20
Councilor Pereira?
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2:27:21
No.
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2:27:22
No.
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2:27:22
Councilor Roy?
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2:27:23
No.
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2:27:23
No.
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2:27:24
Fails 4 to 7.
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2:27:25
Item fails 4 to 7.
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2:27:28
We're not going to take a break, but I am going to see— David, do you have the numbers so far?
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2:27:33
It's just because we ended the general fund, so I just wanted to see if we could— thank you.
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2:27:46
So the total cut, colleagues, for ordinary revenue is $1,746,618.
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2:27:57
That is the cut for ordinary revenue.
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2:28:00
The general funded accounts.
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2:28:03
David, you want that back?
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2:28:05
Yeah.
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2:28:06
Thank you.
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2:28:08
All right, we'll move on now to the enterprise accounts.
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2:28:14
Mr. President, item 160 is a cut to the airport in the 400 account in the amount of $500 offered by Scott Pemberton, uh, Councilor Pemberton.
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2:28:23
Oh, sorry, Councilor Abril.
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2:28:26
Yes.
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2:28:26
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:28:28
No.
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2:28:28
Councilor Bruggo?
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2:28:29
No.
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2:28:30
No.
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2:28:30
Councilor Carney?
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2:28:32
No.
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2:28:33
No.
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2:28:33
Councilor Choquette?
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2:28:35
No.
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2:28:35
No.
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2:28:36
Councilor Gomes?
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2:28:37
No.
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2:28:37
Councilor Lopes?
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2:28:38
No.
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2:28:39
No.
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2:28:39
Councilor Oliver?
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2:28:43
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:28:44
Yes.
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2:28:44
Yes.
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2:28:44
Councilor Pereira?
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2:28:45
No.
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2:28:46
No.
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2:28:46
Councilor Roy?
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2:28:47
No.
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2:28:48
No.
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2:28:49
Fails 2 to 8.
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2:28:51
Item fails 2 to 8.
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2:28:52
Mr. President, item 161 is cut to the airport, the 700 account, in the amount of $5,100, offered by Councilors Choquette, Abreu, and Pemberton.
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2:29:03
Councilor Abreu?
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2:29:04
Yes.
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2:29:05
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:29:06
No.
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2:29:07
Councilor Brigo?
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2:29:08
No.
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2:29:09
No.
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2:29:09
Councilor Carney?
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2:29:10
No.
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2:29:10
No.
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2:29:11
Councilor Choquette?
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2:29:12
Yes.
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2:29:13
Yes.
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2:29:13
Councilor Gomes?
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2:29:15
No.
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2:29:15
Councilor Lopez?
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2:29:16
No.
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2:29:16
No.
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2:29:17
Councilor Oliver?
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2:29:18
Yes.
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2:29:18
Yes.
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2:29:19
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:29:20
Yes.
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2:29:20
Yes.
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2:29:21
Councilor Pereira?
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2:29:21
Yes.
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2:29:22
Yes.
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2:29:23
Councilor Roy?
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2:29:24
No.
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2:29:24
No.
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2:29:25
Fails 5 to 6.
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2:29:27
Fails 5 to 6.
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2:29:28
162 is before us.
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2:29:29
Mr. President, item 162 is a cut to cable access in the 700 account in the amount of $4,000 offered by Councilor Choquette, Abram, Pemberton.
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2:29:37
Councilor— on the question, I would just like to say, uh, out of all of the enterprise accounts, this one receives no appropriation from the general fund.
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2:29:48
It is fully self-sufficient off of its receipts from Comcast and its internal savings account.
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2:29:56
They take not one dollar from the taxpayers of this city.
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2:30:00
A cut here does not make sense.
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2:30:01
Thank you.
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2:30:03
Councillor Abreu?
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2:30:05
Yes.
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2:30:06
Councillor Baptiste?
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2:30:07
No.
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2:30:08
Councilor Borgo?
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2:30:09
No.
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2:30:09
No.
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2:30:09
Councilor Carney?
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2:30:10
No.
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2:30:10
No.
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2:30:11
Councilor Choquette?
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2:30:12
Yes.
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2:30:12
Yes.
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2:30:13
Councilor Gomes?
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2:30:14
No.
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2:30:14
Councilor Lopes?
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2:30:16
No.
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2:30:16
No.
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2:30:17
Councilor Oliver?
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2:30:17
No.
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2:30:18
No.
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2:30:18
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:30:19
Yes.
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2:30:20
Yes.
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2:30:20
Councilor Ferreira?
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2:30:21
No.
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2:30:21
No.
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2:30:22
Councilor Roy?
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2:30:23
No.
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2:30:23
No.
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2:30:23
Fails 3 to 8.
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2:30:24
Item fails 3 to 8.
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2:30:26
163 is before us.
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2:30:27
Mr. President, 163 is a cut to wastewater in the 200 account in the amount of $300,000 offered by Councilor Chauquette, Abreu, and Pemberton.
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2:30:35
Councilor Abreu?
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2:30:37
Yes.
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2:30:37
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:30:38
No.
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2:30:39
Councilor Burgos?
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2:30:42
No.
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2:30:43
No.
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2:30:43
Councilor Carney?
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2:30:44
No.
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2:30:44
No.
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2:30:45
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:30:46
Yes.
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2:30:47
Yes.
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2:30:47
Councilor Gomes?
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2:30:48
No.
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2:30:49
Councilor Lopes?
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2:30:49
No.
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2:30:50
No.
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2:30:50
Councilor Oliver?
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2:30:52
No.
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2:30:52
No.
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2:30:53
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:30:54
Yes.
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2:30:54
Yes.
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2:30:55
Councilor Pereira?
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2:30:56
No.
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2:30:57
No.
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2:30:57
Councilor Roy?
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2:30:58
No.
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2:30:58
No, fails 3 to 8.
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2:31:02
Mr. President, item 164 is a cut to wastewater in the 400 account in the amount of $58,486, uh, offered by Councillors Burgo and Abreu.
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2:31:12
Councillor Abreu?
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2:31:15
Yes.
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2:31:15
Councillor Baptiste?
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2:31:17
No.
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2:31:17
Councillor Burgo?
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2:31:18
Yes.
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2:31:19
Councillor Carney?
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2:31:20
No.
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2:31:21
No.
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2:31:21
Councillor Choquette?
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2:31:22
Yes.
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2:31:23
Yes.
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2:31:23
Councillor Gomes?
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2:31:24
No.
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2:31:25
No.
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2:31:25
Councilor Lopes?
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2:31:26
No.
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2:31:27
No.
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2:31:27
Councilor Oliver?
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2:31:29
Yes.
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2:31:29
Yes.
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2:31:30
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:31:30
Yes.
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2:31:31
Yes.
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2:31:31
Councilor Pereira?
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2:31:32
No.
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2:31:33
No.
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2:31:34
Councilor Roy?
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2:31:34
No.
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2:31:35
No.
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2:31:35
Fails 5 to 6.
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2:31:37
Item fails 5 to 6.
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2:31:39
165 is before us.
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2:31:41
Mr. President, 165 is a cut to wastewater in the 400 account in the amount of $29,243, offered by Councilors Burgo and Avery.
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2:31:50
Councilor Abram.
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2:31:51
Yes.
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2:31:52
Councilor Baptiste.
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2:31:53
No.
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2:31:53
Councilor Burgos.
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2:31:54
Yes.
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2:31:55
Yes.
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2:31:55
Councilor Carney.
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2:31:56
No.
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2:31:57
No.
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2:31:57
Councilor Choquette.
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2:31:58
Yes.
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2:31:59
Yes.
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2:31:59
Councilor Gomes.
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2:32:00
No.
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2:32:01
No.
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2:32:01
Councilor Lopes.
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2:32:02
No.
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2:32:03
No.
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2:32:03
Councilor Oliver.
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2:32:04
Yes.
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2:32:04
Yes.
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2:32:05
Councilor Pemberton.
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2:32:05
Yes.
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2:32:06
Yes.
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2:32:07
Councilor Pereira.
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2:32:07
Yes.
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2:32:08
Yes.
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2:32:08
Councilor Roy.
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2:32:10
No.
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2:32:11
No.
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2:32:11
Passes 6 to 5.
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2:32:13
Item passes 6 to 5.
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2:32:15
That's going to take you 167.
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2:32:18
167.
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2:32:19
Mr. President, item 167, that's a cut to wastewater in the 700 account in the amount of $25,000, offered by Councilor Choquette and Burgo.
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2:32:27
Councilor Abrud?
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2:32:29
No.
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2:32:29
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:32:31
No.
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2:32:31
Councilor Burgo?
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2:32:33
Yes.
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2:32:33
Yes.
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2:32:34
Councilor Carney?
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2:32:35
No.
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2:32:35
No.
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2:32:36
Councilor Choquette?
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2:32:37
Yes.
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2:32:37
Yes.
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2:32:38
Councilor Gomes?
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2:32:39
No.
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2:32:40
Councilor Lopes?
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2:32:41
No.
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2:32:42
Councilor Oliver?
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2:32:43
Yes.
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2:32:43
Yes.
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2:32:43
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:32:44
Yes.
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2:32:45
Yes.
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2:32:45
Councilor Pereira?
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2:32:46
Yes.
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2:32:47
Yes.
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2:32:47
Councilor Roy?
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2:32:48
No.
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2:32:49
No.
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2:32:49
Fails 5 to 6.
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2:32:51
Item fails 5 to 6.
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2:32:52
168 is before us.
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2:32:55
Mr. President, item 168 is a cut to wastewater in the 700 account in the amount of $5,000 offered by Councilors Lopes, Abreu, and Pemberton.
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2:33:03
Councilor Abreu?
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2:33:04
Yes.
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2:33:04
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:33:05
No.
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2:33:06
Councilor Bergo?
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2:33:07
Yes.
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2:33:08
Yes.
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2:33:08
Councilor Carney?
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2:33:09
No.
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2:33:09
No.
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2:33:10
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:33:11
Yes.
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2:33:11
Yes.
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2:33:12
Councilor Gomes?
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2:33:13
No.
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2:33:13
No.
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2:33:13
Councilor Lopes?
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2:33:15
No.
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2:33:16
No.
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2:33:16
Councilor Oliver?
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2:33:17
Yes.
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2:33:18
Yes.
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2:33:19
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:33:20
Yes.
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2:33:21
Yes.
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2:33:21
Councilor Pereira?
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2:33:22
Yes.
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2:33:22
Yes.
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2:33:23
Councilor Roy?
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2:33:23
No.
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2:33:24
No.
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2:33:24
Passes 6 to 5.
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2:33:25
Item passes 6 to 5.
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2:33:28
169.
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2:33:29
Mr. President, item 169 is a cut to wastewater on the 800 account in the amount amount of $100,000 offered by Councillors Pereira, Oliver, and Burgo.
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2:33:38
From the chair, uh, this is a new addition to the budget, and we saw the projections of the wastewater rates coming up.
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2:33:46
They are going to be expensive.
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2:33:48
And while I understand, as the commissioner explained here before us, the need to have some working capital to make repairs when needed, I do think in a tight fiscal year We should be— I don't know if it's feedback from both mics, sorry.
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2:34:03
In a tight fiscal year, we should be looking to not give a full ask in this, allow some capital.
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2:34:11
This will still allow $150,000 worth of capital.
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2:34:14
We're reducing it $100,000.
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2:34:16
He still will have room to work with if things break, and they will break.
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2:34:21
He went from having no capital in his budget to a quarter of a million dollars in a year when we're expecting a double-digit rate increase.
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2:34:28
Increase.
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2:34:29
I think we should just ease into it, allow $150,000 for capital expense, reduce the total ask from a quarter of a million dollars to $150,000.
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2:34:38
Thank you, colleagues.
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2:34:42
Councilor Abramowicz?
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2:34:44
No.
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2:34:44
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:34:48
Councilor— I can't hear him.
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2:34:50
Okay.
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2:34:50
No.
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2:34:51
Councilor Burgos?
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2:34:52
Yes.
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2:34:53
Councilor Carney?
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2:34:54
No.
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2:34:54
No.
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2:34:55
Councilor Choquette?
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2:34:56
No.
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No.
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2:34:57
Councilor Gomes?
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2:34:58
No.
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2:34:59
No.
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2:34:59
Councilor Lopes?
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2:35:00
No.
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2:35:01
No.
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2:35:01
Councilor Oliver?
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2:35:02
Yes.
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2:35:02
Yes.
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2:35:03
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:35:04
Yes.
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2:35:05
Yes.
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2:35:05
Councilor Pereira?
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2:35:06
Yes.
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2:35:07
Yes.
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2:35:07
Councilor Roy?
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2:35:08
No.
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2:35:08
No.
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2:35:09
Fails 4 to 7, Mr. President.
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2:35:10
Item fails 4 to 7.
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2:35:13
Number 170 is before us.
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2:35:17
Mr. President, item 170 is a cut to wastewater in the 800 account.
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2:35:21
In the amount of $75,000 offered by Councillors Pereira and Oliver.
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2:35:25
Councillor Abreu?
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2:35:26
No.
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2:35:27
Councillor Baptiste?
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2:35:28
No.
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2:35:29
Councillor Burgos?
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2:35:30
Yes.
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2:35:31
Councillor Carney?
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2:35:33
No.
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2:35:33
No.
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2:35:34
Councillor Chilcott?
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2:35:35
No.
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2:35:36
Councillor Gomes?
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2:35:37
No.
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2:35:37
Councillor Lopes?
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2:35:39
No.
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2:35:39
Councillor Oliver?
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2:35:40
Yes.
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2:35:41
Yes.
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2:35:41
Councillor Pemberton?
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2:35:42
Yes.
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2:35:43
Yes.
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2:35:43
Councillor Pereira?
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2:35:44
Yes.
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2:35:45
Yes.
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2:35:45
Councillor Roy?
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2:35:47
No, fails 4 to 7.
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2:35:49
Fails 4 to 7.
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2:35:51
171 is before us.
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2:35:52
Mr. President, item 171 is a cut to wastewater in the amount of— in the 800 account, the amount of $50,000 offered by Councilors Choquette, Abreu, Pemberton, Pereira, and Oliver.
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2:36:02
Councilor Abreu?
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2:36:03
Yes.
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2:36:03
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:36:05
No.
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2:36:06
Councilor Burgos?
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2:36:06
Yes.
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2:36:07
Councilor Carney?
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2:36:09
No.
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2:36:09
No.
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2:36:10
Councilor Choquette?
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2:36:11
Yes.
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2:36:11
Yes.
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2:36:12
Councilor Gomes?
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2:36:14
No.
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2:36:14
No.
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2:36:14
Councilor Lopes.
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2:36:15
No.
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2:36:16
No.
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2:36:16
Councilor Oliver.
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2:36:17
Yes.
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2:36:18
Yes.
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2:36:18
Councilor Pemberton.
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2:36:19
Yes.
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2:36:20
Yes.
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2:36:20
Councilor Pereira.
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2:36:21
See.
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2:36:22
Yes.
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2:36:22
Councilor Roy.
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2:36:27
Yes.
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2:36:28
Yes.
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2:36:29
Passes 7 to 4.
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2:36:31
Justice Kennedy.
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2:36:33
Passes 7 to 4.
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2:36:35
That takes care of— that takes care of 179.
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2:36:40
Mr. President, item 173 is a cut to water in the 100 account in the amount of $76,776, offered by Councilor Burgo.
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2:36:52
On the question?
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2:36:53
Yes, thank you.
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2:36:56
Um, Mr. President, this again, um, oh, I didn't mention this in my remarks, sorry, I had to trim some of my speech.
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2:37:02
Um, this assistant superintendent of green space space was introduced to us back in FY26, but it was— some of this, uh, water, uh, budget was eliminated.
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2:37:17
The reduction in the 100 account, um, we know of course we can eliminate from the 100 account, doesn't mean that they're going to do what we tell them to do.
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2:37:24
The unique part of this position is back to the point that I was making earlier about why the mayor appoints chief of staffs everywhere in these different departments.
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2:37:36
In order for this person to be hired, we have to create the position within the Code of Ordinances.
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2:37:42
That's why this was referred back.
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2:37:44
I'm sure the— my colleagues know this was referred to the Committee on Ordinances in order for it to become ordained.
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2:37:51
So this position, you can't even hire an assistant superintendent of green space until we ordain it be so.
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2:37:58
So that's why a year ago when this was introduced, they couldn't hire anyone for this position because it didn't exist in our code of ordinances.
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2:38:05
So even if you all vote no to cut this, they still can't hire this person.
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2:38:12
So I hope that you will cut out this $77,000 for this new person because we haven't even created the position yet.
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2:38:19
And I hope that you agree that we should not be hiring any new positions at a time when we've eliminated 94 positions.
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2:38:26
Thank you.
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2:38:28
Councilor Raybould, very brief.
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2:38:30
Not the time or the place for this.
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2:38:32
It just isn't.
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2:38:33
The optics on this are just horrible right now, uh, based on some of the points that the speaker before me raised.
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2:38:39
But also, I just— we're consolidating, we're telling firefighters to hit the bricks, we're telling 24 police officers you can't come to the academy, and then we're going to create these positions I'm not saying it's not warranted.
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2:38:51
I'm not saying it's not necessary.
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2:38:53
But the optics and the timing on this are just horrible.
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2:38:56
Again, not the time, not the place.
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2:39:00
I will be voting yes to cut this for the time being.
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2:39:02
Thank you.
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2:39:04
Thank you.
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2:39:05
Anyone else?
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2:39:06
Councillor Chauket.
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2:39:08
Thank you, Mr. President.
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2:39:10
I concur with my colleague from Ricketson Street.
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2:39:15
Sometimes it's not the actual math, rather the optics.
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2:39:19
And, um, you know, having this position be brought up in a time when the mayor just moved to cut 25 firefighters, um, again, it speaks for itself.
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2:39:33
It's just, it's just silly.
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2:39:35
So I will be voting as the councilor of Ricketts and Street will also.
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2:39:40
Thank you.
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2:39:40
All right, anyone else?
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2:39:42
Councilor Gomes.
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2:39:45
I just want to rise to— earlier I said this, you got to be out of your cotton-picking mind if you thought you were getting a vote from me for this.
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2:39:55
Thank you, Councilor.
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2:39:58
Anyone else?
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2:40:00
All right, I will ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:40:03
Councilor Abram.
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2:40:04
Yep.
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2:40:05
Yes.
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2:40:05
Councilor Baptiste.
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2:40:07
Yes.
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2:40:07
Councilor Brigo.
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2:40:08
Yes.
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2:40:09
Yes.
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2:40:09
Councilor Carney.
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2:40:10
Yes.
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2:40:10
Yes.
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2:40:11
Councilor Chauquette.
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2:40:12
Yes.
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2:40:13
Yes.
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2:40:13
Councilor Gomes.
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2:40:15
Yes.
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2:40:15
Councilor Lopes.
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2:40:17
Yes.
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2:40:17
Councilor Oliver.
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2:40:19
Yes.
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2:40:19
Yes.
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2:40:20
Councilor Pemberton.
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2:40:20
Yes.
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2:40:21
Yes.
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2:40:21
Councilor Pereira.
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2:40:22
Yes.
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2:40:23
Yes.
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2:40:23
Councilor Roy.
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2:40:25
Yes.
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2:40:25
Yes.
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2:40:26
Passes 11 to 0.
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2:40:28
First unanimous vote of the night.
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2:40:31
All right, all right, all right.
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2:40:32
Thank you.
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2:40:33
I'll ask the clerk to call 174.
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2:40:35
Mr. President, 174 is a cut to water on the 200 account in the amount of $353,813, offered by Councilor Burgo.
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2:40:43
Councilor Burgo.
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2:40:45
Thank you, and thank you to my colleagues for being brave enough.
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2:40:50
Um, I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you, Councilor.
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2:40:53
Um, anyway, um, I rise again for this account because this is only 10% I know the number seems large, $353,000, but 10% of this account they can absorb.
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2:41:03
And again, I want to— I want you all to understand that although this is an enterprise account, the funds are raised through the ratepayer.
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2:41:12
If we don't reduce the expenses in this account, the ratepayer will pay for it.
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2:41:17
So although in the ideas of some people it doesn't cost the taxpayers because it's not raising taxes, it raises on the water bills.
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2:41:25
So I just— I want to put that out there for individuals that are okay eliminating tourism and marketing because they don't see red, white, and blue flags in Ward 1.
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2:41:34
But, you know, when there's water issues in Ward 1, hopefully they'll vote to make some reductions in services that they're not seeing in that area.
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2:41:42
So just wanted to point that out for those— when we have to make some cuts, when we see the double-digit increases, we have to find savings somewhere.
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2:41:49
Thank you.
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2:41:52
Yeah, I just wanted to say that that comment was in poor taste, because if there is no fire station in Ward 1, then you're going to be wishing there was water in Ward 1.
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2:42:05
Councillor Gomes.
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2:42:22
I don't know what happened with the red, white, and blue, and what the red, white, and blue has to do with this.
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2:42:28
But I've never tried to hurt the people of this city in any vote that I take, especially when we're taking money from them.
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2:42:34
But when you've sat down with the commissioner and you understand exactly what's going on with the system, And with everything from water to wastewater, I kind of— I understand what he's saying, but I also, on the other side, feel for the taxpayers.
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2:42:53
And that's the only reason that you'll see me give you a yes vote tonight, not because of my red, white, and blue.
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2:43:00
Some of you don't like red, white, and blue in this room, and I know you don't, but I do, and I love it.
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2:43:08
I'm one of them guys who wrap myself in the cloth, just like I would wrap myself in the cloth of my cultural flag.
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2:43:16
I didn't appreciate that comment either.
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2:43:23
Anyone else?
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2:43:26
Clerk will call the roll.
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2:43:27
Councilor Abril?
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2:43:29
No.
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2:43:29
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:43:31
No.
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2:43:32
Councilor Bruggo?
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2:43:32
Yes.
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2:43:33
Yes.
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2:43:33
Councilor Carney?
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2:43:34
No.
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2:43:35
No.
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2:43:35
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:43:37
No.
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2:43:37
Councilor Gomes?
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2:43:40
No.
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2:43:40
Councilor Lopes?
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2:43:41
No.
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2:43:42
Councilor Oliver?
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2:43:44
No.
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2:43:44
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:43:46
No.
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2:43:46
Councilor Pereira?
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2:43:48
No.
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2:43:48
Councilor Roy?
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2:43:49
No.
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2:43:49
No.
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2:43:50
Fails 1 to 10.
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2:43:51
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:43:52
175 is before us.
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2:43:53
Mr. President, item 175 is a cut to water in the 200 account in the amount of $176,907.
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2:44:00
$100 offered by Councilor Burgos.
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2:44:03
Councilor Abril?
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2:44:04
No.
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2:44:04
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:44:05
No.
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2:44:06
Councilor Burgos?
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2:44:07
Yes.
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2:44:08
Yes.
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2:44:08
Councilor Carney?
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2:44:09
No.
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2:44:09
No.
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2:44:10
Councilor Choquette?
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2:44:11
No.
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2:44:11
Councilor Gomes?
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2:44:13
No.
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2:44:13
Councilor Lopes?
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2:44:14
No.
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2:44:14
Councilor Oliver?
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2:44:16
No.
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2:44:16
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:44:17
No.
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2:44:18
No.
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2:44:19
Councilor Pereira?
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2:44:20
No.
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2:44:20
No.
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2:44:21
Councilor Roy?
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2:44:22
No.
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2:44:22
No.
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2:44:23
Fails 1 to 10.
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2:44:24
Item fails 1.
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2:44:25
Item fails 1 to 10.
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2:44:26
176 is for us.
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2:44:28
Mr. President, item 176 is a cut to the Water Department in the amount— in the 200 account, the amount of $70,763 offered by Councilor Burgo.
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2:44:37
Councilor Abreu?
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2:44:38
No.
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2:44:38
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:44:39
No.
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2:44:40
Councilor Burgo?
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2:44:41
Yes.
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2:44:42
Yes.
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2:44:42
Councilor Carney?
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2:44:43
No.
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2:44:43
No.
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2:44:44
Councilor Choquette?
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2:44:45
No.
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2:44:45
Councilor Gomes?
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2:44:47
No.
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2:44:47
Councilor Lopes?
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2:44:49
No.
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2:44:49
Councilor Oliver?
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2:44:50
No.
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2:44:50
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:44:51
No.
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2:44:52
No.
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2:44:52
Councilor Pereira?
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2:44:54
Yes.
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2:44:54
Yes.
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2:44:54
Councilor Roy?
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2:44:55
No.
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2:44:55
No.
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2:44:56
Fails 2 to 9.
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2:44:57
Item fails 2 to 9.
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2:44:59
177.
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2:45:01
Mr. President, 177 is a cut to water in the 700 account in the amount of $35,000 offered by Councilors Choquette, Abreu, and Burgo.
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2:45:09
Councilor Abreu?
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2:45:09
Yes.
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2:45:11
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:45:12
No.
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2:45:13
Councilor Burgo?
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2:45:14
Yes.
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2:45:14
Yes.
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2:45:15
Councilor Carney?
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2:45:16
No.
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2:45:16
No.
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2:45:17
Councilor Choquette?
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2:45:18
Yes.
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2:45:19
Councilor Gomes?
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2:45:20
No.
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2:45:20
Councilor Lopes?
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2:45:21
No.
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2:45:22
Councilor Oliver?
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2:45:23
Yes.
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2:45:24
Yes.
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2:45:24
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:45:25
Yes.
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2:45:26
Yes.
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2:45:26
Councilor Pereira?
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2:45:27
No.
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2:45:28
No.
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2:45:28
Councilor Roy?
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2:45:29
No.
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2:45:29
No.
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2:45:30
Fails 5 to 6.
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2:45:31
Item fails 5 to 6.
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2:45:32
178.
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2:45:33
Mr. President, 178 is cut to water in the 700 account in the amount of $5,000 offered by Councilors Lopes and Abreu.
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2:45:40
Councilor Abreu?
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2:45:40
Yes.
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2:45:41
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:45:42
No.
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2:45:43
Councilor Burgos?
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2:45:44
Yes.
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2:45:45
Yes.
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2:45:45
Councilor Carney?
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2:45:46
No.
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2:45:47
No.
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2:45:47
Councilor Chouquette?
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2:45:48
Yes.
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2:45:49
Yes.
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2:45:49
Councilor Gomes?
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2:45:51
No.
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2:45:51
Councilor Lopes?
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2:45:52
Yes.
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2:45:53
Councilor Oliver?
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2:45:53
Yes.
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2:45:54
Yes.
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2:45:54
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:45:55
Yes.
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2:45:56
Yes.
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2:45:56
Councilor Pereira?
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2:45:57
Yes.
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2:45:57
Yes.
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2:45:58
Councilor Roy?
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2:45:59
No.
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2:45:59
No.
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2:46:00
Passes 7 to 4.
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2:46:01
Item passes 7 to 4.
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2:46:03
179.
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2:46:04
Mr. President, item 179 is cut from water in the capital outlay 900 account in the amount of $100,000.
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2:46:10
$250,000 offered by Councillors Pereira and Oliver.
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2:46:13
So again, colleagues, much like in wastewater, a department had— this department never has had any capital money in the budget.
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2:46:22
It went from zero to $250,000.
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2:46:26
I do understand the commissioner's need, as he explained it here before us, for some capital outlay.
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2:46:33
And as I explained to him, I don't think we can go from zero to a quarter quarter of a million dollars in a tight fiscal year.
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2:46:39
He kind of agreed.
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2:46:41
And if you recall back, he said that some capital is better than nothing considering the new CIP process in which a lot of his capital equipment goes through.
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2:46:49
But there is still a need to have some cash on hand.
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2:46:52
I do think $150,000 is equitable, is enough in his account.
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2:46:58
That's a reduction of $100,000 proposed before you.
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2:47:01
Thank you.
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2:47:04
Councilor Abram.
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2:47:06
No.
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2:47:07
No.
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2:47:07
Councilor Baptiste.
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2:47:08
No.
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2:47:09
Councilor Burgow.
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Yes.
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2:47:11
Councilor Carney.
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2:47:11
No.
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2:47:12
No.
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2:47:12
Councilor Chauquet.
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2:47:14
No.
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2:47:14
Councilor Gomes.
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2:47:16
No.
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2:47:16
Councilor Lopes.
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2:47:18
No.
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2:47:18
Councilor Oliver.
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2:47:19
Yes.
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2:47:20
Yes.
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2:47:20
Councilor Pemberton.
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2:47:21
Yes.
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2:47:22
Yes.
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2:47:22
Councilor Pereira.
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2:47:23
Yes.
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2:47:23
Yes.
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2:47:24
Councilor Roy.
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2:47:25
No.
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2:47:25
No.
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2:47:26
Fails 4 to 7.
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2:47:27
Item fails 4 to 7, 180.
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2:47:29
Mr. President, 180 is a cut to water in 900 account in the amount of $75,000 offered by Councilors Pereira and Oliver.
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2:47:37
Councilor Abreu?
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2:47:38
No.
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2:47:38
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:47:39
No.
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2:47:40
Councilor Burgos?
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2:47:41
Yes.
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2:47:42
Councilor Carney?
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2:47:43
No.
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2:47:43
No.
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2:47:44
Councilor Chouquette?
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2:47:45
No.
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2:47:45
Councilor Gomes?
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2:47:46
No.
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2:47:47
Councilor Lopes?
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2:47:48
No.
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2:47:48
Councilor Oliver?
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2:47:50
Yes.
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2:47:51
Yes.
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2:47:51
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:47:52
Yes.
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2:47:52
Yes.
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2:47:53
Councilor Pereira?
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2:47:53
Yes.
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2:47:54
Yes.
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2:47:54
Councilor Roy?
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2:47:57
No, fails 4 to 7.
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2:47:58
Item fails 4 to 7.
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2:47:59
181 is before us.
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2:48:01
Mr. President, item 181 is a cut to water in the 900 account in the amount of $50,000 offered by Councilors Choquette, Abreu, Pemberton, Pereira, and Oliver.
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2:48:10
Councilor Abreu?
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2:48:11
Yes.
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2:48:12
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:48:13
No.
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2:48:14
Councilor Burgos?
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2:48:15
Yes.
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2:48:16
Councilor Carney?
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2:48:17
No.
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2:48:18
No.
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2:48:18
Councilor Choquette?
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2:48:20
Yes.
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2:48:20
Councilor Gomes?
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2:48:22
No.
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2:48:22
Councilor Lopes?
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2:48:23
No.
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2:48:24
Councilor Oliver?
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2:48:25
Yes.
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2:48:25
Yes.
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2:48:25
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:48:26
Yes.
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2:48:27
Yes.
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2:48:27
Councilor Pereira?
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2:48:28
Yes.
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2:48:28
Yes.
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2:48:29
Councilor Roy?
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2:48:30
No.
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2:48:30
No.
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2:48:30
Passes 6 to 5.
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2:48:32
Item passes 6 to 5.
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2:48:35
All right, do not go anywhere.
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2:48:36
We're going to take a quick little break.
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2:48:38
Do not leave.
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2:48:38
Oh, I'm sorry.
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2:48:40
No, do not leave your seats.
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2:48:42
We're going to just put a quick recess.
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2:48:44
Do not leave.
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2:48:44
We'll be right back.
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2:51:28
All right, so, okay, okay, read B please.
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2:51:40
Mr. President, item B is an order appropriating $491,000— I'm sorry, $491,393,000 $2,868 from ordinary revenue and municipal receipts of FY beginning July 1st, 2026, and ending June 30th, 2027, for the payment of current expenses of various municipal departments.
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2:52:01
So colleagues, that was $1,746,618 in cuts, which— one more time, please, please repeat.
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2:52:11
$1,746,618 $618 in cuts, for a total $491,392,868.
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2:52:30
Please repeat it.
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2:52:32
$491,392,868.
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2:52:38
Thank you.
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2:52:39
Thank you.
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2:52:40
Thank you.
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2:52:41
All right, so the order has been read into the record before us.
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2:52:46
Oh, should I refer to the quasi— nope.
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2:52:49
Motion to adopt.
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2:52:50
Motion to adopt.
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2:52:53
Correct.
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2:52:54
Motion to adopt as amended, made by Councilor Abreu, seconded by Councilor Baptiste.
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2:52:59
On the question, Councilor Gomes.
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2:53:05
Thank you, Mr. President.
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2:53:06
Mr. President, as you know, for the past 4 years I have not voted, and I will not vote tonight because— and you can call it what you want it.
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2:53:15
You call it grandstanding.
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2:53:16
You call me standing up for the people of this city, standing up for what's right, standing up for a balanced budget, standing up for lower taxes.
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2:53:26
My vote will be no tonight.
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2:53:32
For the past 5 years, I've sent a clear message that the people can't take it.
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2:53:37
And again, there's no grandstanding.
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2:53:39
People of this city can't take it.
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2:53:41
My vote will be no.
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2:53:42
Thank you.
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2:53:44
Thank you, Councilor.
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2:53:45
Anyone else?
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2:53:50
Okay, on adoption of the order, I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:53:56
Councilor Abram.
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2:53:57
Yes.
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2:53:58
Councilor Baptiste.
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2:53:59
Yes.
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2:53:59
Yes.
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2:53:59
Councilor Burgos?
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2:54:01
Yes.
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2:54:01
Councilor Carney?
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2:54:02
Yes.
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2:54:03
Yes.
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2:54:03
Councilor Choquette?
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2:54:04
Yes.
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2:54:05
Yes.
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2:54:05
Councilor Gomes?
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2:54:06
No.
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2:54:07
Councilor Lopes?
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2:54:09
Yes.
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2:54:09
Councilor Oliver?
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2:54:10
Yes.
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2:54:11
Yes.
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2:54:11
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:54:12
Yes.
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2:54:12
Yes.
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2:54:13
Councilor Pereira?
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2:54:14
Yes.
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2:54:15
Yes.
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2:54:15
Councilor Roy?
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2:54:16
Yes.
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2:54:17
Yes.
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2:54:17
Passes 10 to 1, Mr. President.
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2:54:19
Item passes 10 to 1.
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2:54:21
I'll ask the clerk to read Item C. Mr. President, Item C is an order appropriating $1 million $408,557 in 12 equal monthly increments from airport receipts of FY27 in the airport budget.
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2:54:33
Motion to adopt.
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2:54:35
Motion to adopt made by Councilor Roy, seconded by Councilor Choquette.
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2:54:39
Anyone on the question?
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2:54:41
I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:54:43
Councilor Ebru?
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2:54:44
Yes.
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2:54:45
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:54:46
Yes.
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2:54:47
Councilor Virgo?
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2:54:48
Yes.
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2:54:49
Councilor Carney?
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2:54:49
Yes.
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2:54:50
Councilor Choquette?
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2:54:52
Yes.
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2:54:52
Councilor Gomes.
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2:54:54
Yes.
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2:54:54
Councilor Lopes.
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2:54:56
Yes.
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2:54:56
Councilor Oliver.
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2:54:57
Yes.
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2:54:58
Yes.
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2:54:58
Councilor Pemberton.
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2:54:59
Yes.
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2:55:00
Councilor Pereira.
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2:55:01
Yes.
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2:55:01
Yes.
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2:55:02
Councilor Roy.
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2:55:03
Yes.
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2:55:03
Yes.
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2:55:04
11-0.
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2:55:05
Item passes 11-0.
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2:55:06
I will ask the clerk to read Item D. Mr. President, Item D is an order appropriating $133,747 from the hotel and lodging tax and the arts Culture and Tourism Fund in 12 equal monthly increments for— from FY27 municipal receipts.
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2:55:24
Motion to adopt.
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2:55:27
Motion to adopt made by Councilor Roy, seconded by Councilor Burgo.
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2:55:31
On the question, I will ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:55:34
Councilor Abram.
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2:55:35
Yes.
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2:55:36
Councilor Baptiste.
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2:55:36
Yes.
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2:55:37
Yes.
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2:55:37
Councilor Burgo.
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2:55:39
Yes.
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2:55:39
Councilor Carney.
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2:55:40
Yes.
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2:55:41
Yes.
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2:55:41
Councilor Choquette.
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2:55:42
Yes.
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2:55:43
Yes.
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2:55:43
Yes.
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2:55:43
Yes.
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2:55:43
Councillor Gomes?
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2:55:44
Yes.
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2:55:45
Yes.
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2:55:45
Councillor Lopes?
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2:55:46
Yes.
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2:55:47
Yes.
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2:55:47
Councillor Oliver?
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2:55:48
Yes.
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2:55:48
Yes.
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2:55:49
Councillor Pemberton?
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2:55:50
Yes.
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2:55:50
Yes.
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2:55:51
Councillor Pereira?
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2:55:52
Yes.
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2:55:52
Yes.
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2:55:52
Councillor Roy?
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2:55:53
Yes.
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2:55:54
Yes.
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2:55:54
11-0.
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2:55:56
Item passes 11-0.
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2:55:58
I will ask the clerk to read Item E. Mr. President, Item E is an order appropriating $1,492,045 in 12 equal monthly increments from the enterprise fund receipts of FY 2017.
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2:56:08
7 in the Cable Access Enterprise Fund.
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2:56:11
Adoption of the order.
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2:56:13
Second.
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2:56:14
Move adoption of the order made by Councilor Gomes, seconded by Councilor Roy.
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2:56:17
Anyone on the question?
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2:56:19
I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:56:20
Councilor Abreu?
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2:56:22
Yes.
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2:56:22
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:56:23
Yes.
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2:56:24
Councilor Burgos?
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2:56:25
Yes.
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2:56:25
Councilor Carney?
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2:56:26
Yes.
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2:56:27
Yes.
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2:56:27
Councilor Chauquette?
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2:56:28
Yes.
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2:56:29
Yes.
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2:56:29
Councilor Gomes?
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2:56:31
Yes.
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2:56:31
Yes.
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2:56:31
Councilor Lopes?
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2:56:32
Yes.
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2:56:33
Yes.
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2:56:33
Councilor Oliver?
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2:56:34
Yes.
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2:56:35
Yes.
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2:56:35
Councillor Pemberton?
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2:56:36
Yes.
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2:56:37
Yes.
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2:56:37
Councillor Pereira?
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2:56:38
Yes.
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2:56:38
Yes.
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2:56:39
Councillor Roy?
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2:56:40
Yes.
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2:56:40
Item passes 11 to 0.
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2:56:43
Item F is before us.
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2:56:44
Mr. President, Item F is an order appropriating $68,500 now standing to the credit of the account of the CCDA Traffic Handicap Parking as follows: $64,000 to Commission for Citizens with Disabilities for purchase of services and $4,500 Commission for Citizens citizens with disabilities and supplies.
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2:57:03
Second.
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2:57:03
Motion to adopt the order made by Councilor Abreu, seconded by Councilor LaRoy.
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2:57:07
Anyone on the question?
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2:57:08
I will ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:57:10
Councilor Abreu?
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2:57:11
Yes.
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2:57:11
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:57:12
Yes.
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2:57:13
Yes.
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2:57:13
Councilor Burgos?
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2:57:14
Yes.
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2:57:15
Councilor Carney?
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2:57:16
Yes.
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2:57:16
Yes.
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2:57:17
Councilor Choquette?
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2:57:18
Yes.
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2:57:19
Councilor Gomes?
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2:57:20
Yes.
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2:57:20
Yes.
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2:57:20
Councilor Lopes?
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2:57:21
Yes.
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2:57:22
Yes.
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2:57:22
Councilor Oliver?
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2:57:23
Yes.
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2:57:23
Yes.
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2:57:24
Councilor Pemberton?
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2:57:25
Yes.
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2:57:26
Councilor Pereira?
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2:57:26
Yes.
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2:57:27
Yes.
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2:57:27
Councilor Roy?
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2:57:28
Yes.
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2:57:29
Yes.
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2:57:30
Item passes 11 to 0.
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2:57:31
I'll ask the clerk to call Item G. Mr. President, Item G is an order appropriating $1,124,735 in 12 equal monthly increments from the Enterprise Fund receipts of FY27 in the downtown parking account.
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2:57:50
Motion to adopt the order made by Councilor Abreu, seconded by Councilor Bergo.
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2:57:53
Anyone on the question?
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2:57:55
We'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:57:56
Councilor Abram, yes.
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2:57:58
Councilor Baptiste, yes.
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2:58:00
Councilor Bergo, yes.
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2:58:01
Councilor Carney, yes.
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2:58:03
Yes.
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2:58:03
Councilor Choquette, yes.
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2:58:05
Yes.
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2:58:05
Councilor Gomes, yes.
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2:58:07
Yes.
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2:58:07
Councilor Lopes, yes.
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2:58:08
Yes.
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2:58:09
Councilor Oliver, yes.
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2:58:10
Yes.
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2:58:10
Councilor Pemberton, yes.
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2:58:12
Yes.
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2:58:12
Councilor Pereira, yes.
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2:58:14
Yes.
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2:58:14
Councilor Roy, yes.
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2:58:15
Yes.
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2:58:16
11-0.
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2:58:17
Item passes 11-0.
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2:58:20
We'll ask the clerk to read item H. Mr. President, item H is an order appropriating $33,705,409 in 12 equal monthly increments from wastewater receipts of FY27 in the DPI wastewater budget.
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2:58:35
Motion to adopt the order.
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2:58:36
Uh, just really, before we get to the motion, I just would like to clarify that it is an $84,243 cut.
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2:58:44
That's $84,243 cut, which the new total is $33,705,409.
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2:58:57
Make a motion to adopt the order as amended.
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2:59:00
Sorry, $33,705,409.
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2:59:07
Motion to adopt as amended was made by Councilor Lopes.
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2:59:10
Seconded by Councilor Roy.
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2:59:13
Anyone on the question?
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2:59:14
I will ask the clerk to call the roll.
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2:59:16
Councilor Abril?
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2:59:17
Yes.
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2:59:17
Yes.
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2:59:17
Councilor Baptiste?
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2:59:19
Yes.
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2:59:19
Councilor Brego?
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2:59:21
Yes.
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2:59:22
Councilor Carney?
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2:59:22
Yep.
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2:59:23
Yes.
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2:59:24
Councilor Choquette?
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2:59:25
Yes.
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2:59:26
Yes.
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2:59:26
Councilor Gomes?
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2:59:27
Yes.
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2:59:28
Yes.
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2:59:28
Councilor Lopes?
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2:59:29
Yes.
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2:59:30
Yes.
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2:59:30
Councilor Oliver?
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2:59:32
Yes.
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2:59:32
Yes.
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2:59:33
Councilor Pepperdine?
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2:59:34
Yes.
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2:59:34
Yes.
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2:59:35
Councilor Pereira?
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2:59:36
Yes.
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2:59:36
Yes.
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2:59:37
Councilor Roy.
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2:59:37
Yes.
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2:59:38
Yes.
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2:59:39
Item passes 11 to 0.
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2:59:43
I will ask the clerk to read item I. Mr. President, item I is an order appropriating $23,103,096 in 12 equal monthly increments from water receipts of FY27 in the DPI water budget.
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2:59:58
So that amount has been cut by $131,000 $131,776, which brings our total to $23,103,096.
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3:00:16
Motion to adopt— excuse me, the amount is $23,103,096.
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3:00:26
Everyone good?
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3:00:27
Motion to adopt the amended order.
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3:00:29
Motion to adopt the amended order made by Councilor Roy, seconded by Councilor Abreu.
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3:00:34
Anyone on the question?
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3:00:35
On the question, Chair recognizes Councilor Vargo.
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3:00:37
I just wanted to make a note.
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3:00:38
Obviously, these numbers that we've reduced the wastewater and water by will not affect, uh, the, the rate significantly like we have in the past.
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3:00:47
We have made significant cuts in the past.
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3:00:50
I'm sure we might not remember that.
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3:00:52
I'm not sure why some in this body were squeamish tonight to cut from the wastewater and water budget.
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3:00:59
They have been able to absorb these cuts in the past.
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3:01:02
Um, I just wanted to mention that, uh, we're gonna vote on this tonight.
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3:01:06
Uh, there's been comments about wanting to control increase in taxes.
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3:01:09
Again, that's why I mentioned during my proposed cut for wastewater and water was that although this doesn't go towards, uh, the, the taxes, it goes towards the, the water rate and the, the ratepayer for wastewater and water and the water bills that are going to have a significant increase.
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And we missed our opportunity tonight, uh, to provide some relief to the ratepayer.
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So for those who might have thought they were sticking it to me somehow by voting no on my proposed cut, I hope that you enjoy this.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Anyone else?
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I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
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Councilor Abreu?
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Yes.
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Councilor Baptiste?
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3:01:50
Yes.
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Councilor Burgos?
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Yes.
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Councilor Carney?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Councilor Choquette?
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Yes.
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Councilor Gomes?
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Yep.
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Yes.
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Councilor Lopes?
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Yes.
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3:02:00
Yes.
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Councilor Oliver?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Councilor Pemberton?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Councilor Pereira?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Councilor Roy?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Motion to dissolve the Quasi-Committee of the Whole.
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Motion to dissolve the Quasi-Committee of the Whole made by Councilor Burgos, seconded by Councilor Baptiste.
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Anyone on the question?
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All those in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Opposed?
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The ayes have it.
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Seeing no further business before the committee, motion to adjourn made by Councilor Abrams, seconded by Councilor Pemberton.
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Anyone on the question?
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All those in favor say aye.
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Opposed?
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The ayes have it.
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We are adjourned at 10:10 PM.
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Thank you.
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